Minimal Audio Current…subscription

[Jac459]

They list only Visa and Mastercard. Dont have any of this.

Visa or Master are just network, like Amex. In principle with your bank account you get a debit card at least just to access your money. This debit card is most often Visa or Master.
Also if you apply to Revolut or Wise, it is free and you get a debit card.
Could be useful.

[Kythera]

They list only Visa and Mastercard. Dont have any of this.

Visa or Master are just network, like Amex. In principle with your bank account you get a debit card at least just to access your money. This debit card is most often Visa or Master.
Also if you apply to Revolut or Wise, it is free and you get a debit card.
Could be useful.

I never had the need to get something like this, yah thanks maybe I will get one for the future - but I still dont see the problem with just adding Paypal as an option. Why Minimal Audio?

[Lbdunequest]

I do miss a modulation matrix in this synth, it's only possible to see what is modulated when I hover over the mods, but then i need to switch in all views to see the targets.

I kind of mis that aswel

[_leras]

If you're going for an... experimental pricing model, you should probably inform the people you're outsourcing advertisement to about it.

I wouldn't say they outsourced advertising to the YouTubers... The YouTubers are more than happy to get their hands on good content.

You make it sound like the developer is the parasitical side of this relationship... I think it's clearly the other way around.

Anyway, these video reviewers may do an ok demo, but really people should demo things themselves. And these same people are not needed for discovering new things, kvr here already covers that very well imo.

[db3]

Imho 200USD is on the high side but kind of ok. If you see the current price of Dune or Serum, it is only 10% more. Current seems arguably more powerful (to be further tested).
For me the deciding factor will be the presets. If they play the sub and give only 80 presets, I think I'll pass. If they go to a reasonable amount of presets bundled (let's say more than 500) I will certainly go for it. If it is in between, I'll see.

I downloaded all available presets in Stream...there are just over 300. There's too much focus on very specific EDM genres and fully produced single note loops. I tagged a small % of useable presets. For a $200 synth I would expect 500+ presets with a mix of more general EDM presets (like Rapid). The risk would be a closed ecosystem preventing third party presets. If so, they will need to employ a more diverse set of sound designers, because the current set doesn't do the synth any justice whatsoever. NB) Downloading all presets included around 60% of available wavetables but only a fraction of available samples.

This is a super powerful synth. It could have been a momentous release with some better business decisions.

[fmr]

I downloaded all available presets in Stream...there are just over 300. There's too much focus on very specific EDM genres and fully produced single note loops. I tagged a small % of useable presets. For a $200 synth I would expect 500+ presets with a mix of more general EDM presets (like Rapid). The risk would be a closed ecosystem preventing third party presets. If so, they will need to employ a more diverse set of sound designers, because the current set doesn't do the synth any justice whatsoever. NB) Downloading all presets included around 60% of available wavetables but only a fraction of available samples.

This is a super powerful synth. It could have been a momentous release with some better business decisions.

I tried Current as well, and I have the exact same opinion. Too much focus on EDM genres (which are definitely not my kind of thing). I am pretty much decided to cancel as soon as I can, taking only the free 30-day period to try it. I would even have canceled it right now, (just in case) but they politely asked me to wait when I asked how to cancel it, so I decided to give it one more chance. But it doesn't seem to bring anything new and interesting, at least to me.

[Samiver]

Can anyone tell me if you can import wave tables.

I can see wave tables for sale as part of their stream service so assume yes but wondered if this was locked to theirs in some way or if it is as simple as just putting wave tables in a folder and rescan like serum.

I have loads of wave tables so be good to know if I can use in currant.

Ps. I know you can sign up and trial but I am likely to forget to cancel (if you even currently can based on the post above). Will try it once the perpetual and normal demo options are up and running though

[machine_spirit]

I wouldn't say they outsourced advertising to the YouTubers... The YouTubers are more than happy to get their hands on good content.

Sure, happy until they find themselves in the middle of a shitstorm because obviously important information was withheld. I believe the loud and more or less universal rejection of the initial subscription model makes it pretty clear that this information is just as spicy as i and 99% of the posts here and elsewhere directly or indirectly argue it is. We can speculate why the developers remained ignorant about this but it won't lead anywhere. I'm not looking to step on anyone, i'm just somewhat disturbed by how quickly some people change their views, based on actions that were inevitable anyway.

A flat subscription with no immediate or eventual ownership of anything is a collar and a leash. In my view it would take several years of a - very - consumer-friendly approach to heal the reputation of any business that tried something like this. Fortunately or unfortunately most people are alot more pragmatic than i am, and so the world goes on.

You make it sound like the developer is the parasitical side of this relationship... I think it's clearly the other way around.

I think the relationship is usually symbiotic, though somewhat awkward for everyone involved for various reasons. It acts as a sort of filter and protection against some corporate bullshit but on the other hand it's not ideal at all to have to go through some possibly semi-reliable caffeine-soaked game streamer on Twitch to advertise your new game, and so on. I'm not saying that the whole deal with influencers and streamers is entirely positive. Most influencers and streamers have worked their way to relevance without external "support" btw. If they sell out and become walking, talking advertisements, it's something that happens afterwards.

[fireapplered]

Imho 200USD is on the high side but kind of ok. If you see the current price of Dune or Serum, it is only 10% more. Current seems arguably more powerful (to be further tested).
For me the deciding factor will be the presets. If they play the sub and give only 80 presets, I think I'll pass. If they go to a reasonable amount of presets bundled (let's say more than 500) I will certainly go for it. If it is in between, I'll see.

I downloaded all available presets in Stream...there are just over 300. There's too much focus on very specific EDM genres and fully produced single note loops. I tagged a small % of useable presets. For a $200 synth I would expect 500+ presets with a mix of more general EDM presets (like Rapid). The risk would be a closed ecosystem preventing third party presets. If so, they will need to employ a more diverse set of sound designers, because the current set doesn't do the synth any justice whatsoever. NB) Downloading all presets included around 60% of available wavetables but only a fraction of available samples.

This is a super powerful synth. It could have been a momentous release with some better business decisions.

Now that dance and electronic music is the new pop music I find this happening way too often now. Everyones presets ending up sounding EDM, or Future-something-or-other-what ever is cool with the kids at the moment that people call bangers. Or they sound just plain cheesey. Kilohearts content banks are the worst.

[Choikdoi]

I tried Current as well, and I have the exact same opinion. Too much focus on EDM genres (which are definitely not my kind of thing). I am pretty much decided to cancel as soon as I can, taking only the free 30-day period to try it. I would even have canceled it right now, (just in case) but they politely asked me to wait when I asked how to cancel it, so I decided to give it one more chance. But it doesn't seem to bring anything new and interesting, at least to me.

What? They asked you to not cancel? What did they say exactly?

[billinder33]

Following the forum, reading the posts, eating the popcorn..meanwhile, still no Paypal option on the site.
i cant get over the fact that I cant use this synth because I dont own a credit card. WTF.
Am I really the only one having this problem? I dont get it. How can this be accepted?

Maybe it will be available on Plugin Boutique once they get the pricing restructured and IIRC PB offers PayPal.

[billinder33]

You make it sound like the developer is the parasitical side of this relationship... I think it's clearly the other way around.

Neither side is parasitic. It's symbiotic.

The influencer ecosystem is the most powerful marketing channel in the plugin industry, and it's essentially free to developers. All they have to do is 1) create great products 2) not alienate the reviewers.

Ironically, #1 is the hardest and MA has a great track record there. #2 is easy - just treat the influencers like you would like to be treated. And I'm pretty sure MA would be pissed if they were treated like they treated the influencers.

[fmr]

I tried Current as well, and I have the exact same opinion. Too much focus on EDM genres (which are definitely not my kind of thing). I am pretty much decided to cancel as soon as I can, taking only the free 30-day period to try it. I would even have canceled it right now, (just in case) but they politely asked me to wait when I asked how to cancel it, so I decided to give it one more chance. But it doesn't seem to bring anything new and interesting, at least to me.

What? They asked you to not cancel? What did they say exactly?

QUOTE:
"We're remodeling our pricing system at the moment, please watch this video if you haven't yet

Thanks for your patience and understanding while we redesign our price model for current. "

[Choikdoi]

QUOTE:
"We're remodeling our pricing system at the moment, please watch this video if you haven't yet

Thanks for your patience and understanding while we redesign our price model for current. "

No, I meant: you said that they politely asked you not to cancel the trial, when you asked them how to do it. What was said to you in that moment?

[jackson881]

I've been doing the trial of Current and have 2 quick questions if anyone can help. I'm probably just overlooking something.

1. Is there a dedicated button to show the 'keyboard area' in Current? I spent forever looking for it, but the only way I found to show it is to click the 'x' on the currently active modulator.

2. Can the downloaded content from Stream be located on an external drive?