Ohmforce Frohmager - free plugin

[knowix]

As a Mac user (and I just use a Mac Mini as it just keeps things tidier for me than Windows) I personally wouldn't mind too much if a dev was only able to provide a bare bones MacOS version that uses a DAW's own user interface. Though I'm sure people would quibble on price

[mustgroove]

Looks like it's not Apple Silicon native on Mac, FYI

[Red_Force]

I just gave Frohmager a try. It sounds good, but there seems to be a pretty heavy slew on the cutoff frequency (modulating it with a square LFO from Bitwig, or even just manually turning the knob quickly).

There shouldn't be. Obviously this kind of things is heavily buffer dependent (the bigger, the worse) unless you use build in LFO which you probably should do except in some specific cases I can't immediately think of. Older Ohmforce's plugins were a bit complicated to force the synchronisation of modulation of but this is not the case with this generation. (Ohmboyz Infinity and Frohmager)

Choosing a preset from Reaper's own preset dropdown crashes the DAW for me. Frohmager's own preset UI works fine though.

Confirmed for the VST3 plugin in Reaper 7 and Waveform 12.5. The VST2 plugin doesn't crash anything.

Noted. We did test on Reaper but not that specifically.

Looks like it's not Apple Silicon native on Mac, FYI

Correct. We are looking into how to do it but it's obviously painful to spend time on this and not, say, on a new ohmicide. YET we are still looking into it. When a conclusion is made I'll keep you posted.

[foosnark]

I just gave Frohmager a try. It sounds good, but there seems to be a pretty heavy slew on the cutoff frequency (modulating it with a square LFO from Bitwig, or even just manually turning the knob quickly).

There shouldn't be. Obviously this kind of things is heavily buffer dependent (the bigger, the worse) unless you use build in LFO which you probably should do except in some specific cases I can't immediately think of. Older Ohmforce's plugins were a bit complicated to force the synchronisation of modulation of but this is not the case with this generation. (Ohmboyz Infinity and Frohmager)

Hmm, even using the internal step sequencer (with smoothing at 0) it's acting more like a triangle than steps. My buffer size was 256 samples, I set it to 48 and it didn't change.

[dayjob]

I just gave Frohmager a try. It sounds good, but there seems to be a pretty heavy slew on the cutoff frequency (modulating it with a square LFO from Bitwig, or even just manually turning the knob quickly).

There shouldn't be. Obviously this kind of things is heavily buffer dependent (the bigger, the worse) unless you use build in LFO which you probably should do except in some specific cases I can't immediately think of. Older Ohmforce's plugins were a bit complicated to force the synchronisation of modulation of but this is not the case with this generation. (Ohmboyz Infinity and Frohmager)

Choosing a preset from Reaper's own preset dropdown crashes the DAW for me. Frohmager's own preset UI works fine though.

Confirmed for the VST3 plugin in Reaper 7 and Waveform 12.5. The VST2 plugin doesn't crash anything.

Noted. We did test on Reaper but not that specifically.

Looks like it's not Apple Silicon native on Mac, FYI

Correct. We are looking into how to do it but it's obviously painful to spend time on this and not, say, on a new ohmicide. YET we are still looking into it. When a conclusion is made I'll keep you posted.

“Conclusion”? I mean, if you want people who use Apple computers to buy your new plug ins it’s kind of a given right? You’ll have to do it for “new ohmicide” so might as well get to it [shrug]

[Red_Force]

Hmm, even using the internal step sequencer (with smoothing at 0) it's acting more like a triangle than steps. My buffer size was 256 samples, I set it to 48 and it didn't change.

Can you share a screen capture with audio and the graph?

[muki]

thanks, but:

i am getting an imidiate crash with logic 10.5.1 (mojave, mini intel) or hostingAU
little snitch reports an connectionattempt to amazonaws

i've already sent crashlogs to support

[T-CM11]

ahem...Frohmager is actually available now.

It seems non-resizable. Some of the text is really tiny on my 109dpi screen.
Is there a manual?

[fceramic]

Still no effect quite like it with the delay taps, and it always sounds musical. Would love to get this for Apple Silicon!

[bagpipe200]

Has anyone figured out how to assign the LFO to the various control/pots? I've played around with the presets but I'm still confused.

[Teksonik]

little snitch reports an connectionattempt to amazonaws

It appears the plugin is connecting (through the DAW) to s3-1 amazonaws.com

Why?

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[BONES]

it would make more sense for windows users not to buy any software that is developed for windows and apple.. and only buy software that is windows only. vote with your dollars.

Whereas hindering development for half your market to keep the other half happy is perfectly fair and reasonable? Apple don't think so; what was the first thing they did when they acquired Logic?

Yeah, this has been a nightmare for all of us. I still won’t upgrade a 2016 MBP to Catalina because I don’t want to lose working versions of certain apps and plugins.
I upgraded to a M1 Mac Studio, so I need that old machine to access old projects to try to translate anything from those to the new machine (trying to replicate certain FX settings as much as possible).

Why do you put up with being treated like that? You are like a victim of domestic violence who doesn't pack up and leave after the first time they get knocked around.

But from this point forward… it seems as if macOS instability should be a thing of the past, now that there’s been a transition from supporting both Intel and Apple Silicon, to macOS being primarily AS based.

Again, like the abuser who conditions his victim to behave in a way that pleases him. "He used to hit me all the time, but since I started doing exactly as I'm told, everything's been great." Now that you can't use any of your old software, you seem to think it's all good again.

If anything, now should be a damn good time to get back into things after a break, as Apple Silicon is going to be the future for Macs, with bankruptcy being the only thing preventing that being the platform of the future for Apple. Cut legacy Intel support for macOS and only support AS from this point forward.

"Now that I've accepted that I can't talk to my friends and family any more, and that I have to spend all my time at home with him, life has been great!" Honestly, it's terrifying that anyone would put up with being treated like that.

Anyway, I didn't realise Ohmforce was still around, Nice to see they're still kickin'.

[dayjob]

it would make more sense for windows users not to buy any software that is developed for windows and apple.. and only buy software that is windows only. vote with your dollars.

Whereas hindering development for half your market to keep the other half happy is perfectly fair and reasonable? Apple don't think so; what was the first thing they did when they acquired Logic?

the first thing they did? well, i think it would have to be generating a lot of butthurt on forums for aging fvckwads to multiquote posts in useless on line arguments that are a total waste of time.... but some people have endless amounts of time to beat dead horses in circles.

(should mention i am an aging fvckwad)

who cares. either make things for both operating systems or don't i don't care. MacOS is better for me so it's nice when things work on MacOS and Apple Silicon... but it's not like i don't have enough software that works perfectly well and does all the things and more.

i do find it funny that a developer is still trying to figure out if they are even going to support apple silicon but develops their software on apple computers/MacOS. Seems like you should stop making apple versions if you aren't going to support the current line of products they make. i mean.. it's pointless. just make them for windows and say good bye to apple headaches. shrug.

[BONES]

the first thing they did? well, i think it would have to be generating a lot of butthurt on forums for aging fvckwads to multiquote posts in useless on line arguments that are a total waste of time.... but some people have endless amounts of time to beat dead horses in circles.

No, the first thing they did was end development on Windows. They kept selling it for a while, IIRC. |They were more than happy to ditch half their user base, although I imagine that, in their arrogance, they thought all those Logic users on Windows would jump ship and buy a Mac, which didn't quite pan out for them. They had the same experience with Shake, only moreso. In the end they just killed the product off when they realised their plan had failed. It wouldn't surprise me if they did the same with Logic one day.

i do find it funny that a developer is still trying to figure out if they are even going to support apple silicon but develops their software on apple computers/MacOS. Seems like you should stop making apple versions if you aren't going to support the current line of products they make. i mean.. it's pointless. just make them for windows and say good bye to apple headaches. shrug.

Maybe you didn't read what they wrote, or didn't understand it. Moving forward, they said they will support Apple Silicon only on new products. At least that's how I read it.

[Aloysius]

When will Mac people learn that Windows is the Professional choice?