Charlatan³ Free VA synth updated to v3.3.2 (Win/Linux)

[nitedwella]

holy cow I thought this day would never come! huge congrats for version 3

since the last time I used Charlatan I've moved from Windows to Mac though. On the other hand, my job also happens to be developing for Mac/iOS platforms - which makes me wonder if you'd like some help getting builds for macOS available as well. I'd be more than happy to discuss that possibility in private if you want

[karrikuh]

Linux install script woopsie:

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Do you accept the license terms? ([y]es or [N]o): ./install.sh: 6: read: arg count
Installation canceled.

Thanks for the report, fixing.

How do you get one binary to be recognized as both clap and vst3, some sort of wrapper trickery?

That's a commonly used trick which exploits the fact that each plugin standard defines its own entry points (symbol names) which can happily live alongside each other in the same library. A loader for VST3 will only look for the VST3 entry point and ignore any other exported symbols. It certainly simplifies the build and deployment process for a dev.

[Kokoala]

Demo

[Odd Fella]

Very nice sound, cool paramedic ( ) equalizer and effects in general.

Operation is a bit clumsy and unintuitive, no mouse wheel support, either.

The GUI is a tiny bit too high for my display.

[karrikuh]

How does it work with Drag'n drop, I couldn't find the combinations/keybindings?

You mean loading a preset by dragging the file onto the UI? Not supported currently, but this is certainly the kind of usability improvement I want to add at some point. Same for keyboard support.

[yzcoruhT]

Resizable or bigger UI would be great and also mousewheel support for knobs. But... great plugin indeed.

[egbert101]

Sounds really really good and the simplicity of the interface puts other developers to shame.

[hlmst]

Resizable or bigger UI would be great and also mousewheel support for knobs. But... great plugin indeed.

Size is perfect on my 32" 1440p setup. Usually the average plugin implementing GUI resize has come with +/- triple RAM and file size footprints. Careful what you wish for.

[ZonderP]

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How do you get one binary to be recognized as both clap and vst3, some sort of wrapper trickery?

That's a commonly used trick which exploits the fact that each plugin standard defines its own entry points (symbol names) which can happily live alongside each other in the same library. A loader for VST3 will only look for the VST3 entry point and ignore any other exported symbols. It certainly simplifies the build and deployment process for a dev.

Would an additional entry point 'main' or 'VSTPluginMain' make it possible to run it as VST2?

[tesselode]

Long time user of Charlatan here. I've always loved its simplicity and minimalism, so it's surprising to me that you took such a less-minimalist route with Charlatan 3! My initial thoughts:

- I'd love a resizable GUI! The default size is pretty small on my 4k screen, and if I use automatic scaling in Windows, it's blurry.
- I could also use some tooltips when hovering over the controls. I'm not sure what all of them do (and there's no manual yet).
- There's a slight popping sound when I click the "D" button in an oscillator section. (I have no idea what that button does, hence the request for tooltips)

I'll post more feedback once I've played around with this more.

[karrikuh]

No way to pull off a PWM unless using the inverted sawtooth method right?

Right, consider this the "official" way to do PWM in Charlatan³. In fact, it was part of the motivation for the "dual oscillator" design I ended up with.

[chk071]

- There's a slight popping sound when I click the "D" button in an oscillator section. (I have no idea what that button does, hence the request for tooltips)

Some things are described in the quickguide in the ZIP package. "D" seems to bypass the filters, and route the oscillators directly to the fx section. I first thought "D" stands fro Drift, as that would have been the obvious thing in the oscillator section. So, yeah, definitely needs some tooltips.

[Nug Wrangler]

Great news

[Odd Fella]

No way to pull off a PWM unless using the inverted sawtooth method right?

Right, consider this the "official" way to do PWM in Charlatan³. In fact, it was part of the motivation for the "dual oscillator" design I ended up with.

Maybe it would have been better to keep the original structure (which had PWM if I am not mistaken) and merely add new stuff such as the effects to complement it.

I mean, people have been complaining about Sylenth1's implementation of PWM for a decade, and yet, there it is again in a brand-new synth

[chk071]

Would've liked it as well, if Charlatan kept PWM capability.