KVR Audio

wikter · Post by **wikter** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:55 pm

The_Anarchivist_00 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:32 pm I'm too stupid to run that. I'm letting Charlatan rest for now. No worries.

wikter wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:41 pm
The_Anarchivist_00 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:46 am I am running BC Patchwork within Orion DAW,
Have you tried Polac's VST3 adapter?

DXi, VST3 & other plugin formats available as shell...
https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/?C=M;O=A
https://www.xlutop.com/buzz/zip/vst3shell_v1.2.1.zip

C.Ray · Post by **C.Ray** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:59 pm

Working nicely in FL Studio 21.2 version 3835. I'll keep testing. So far I would recommend destination for LFO modulations need to renamed to LFO instead of Mod3, Mod4 IMO..

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:55 am

I'm playing with it in Debian 12 Linux and so far it feels rather satisfying. It is deceptively simple as traditional for Charlatans.

I will report if I encounter any bugs. So far I think there's something odd happening with some modulations, but I'm not 100%. No crashes so far. Thank you so much Karrikuh! I'm a fan of your FX, too.

Thank you for supporting Linux!

wikter · Post by **wikter** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:18 am

C.Ray wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:59 pm Working nicely in FL Studio 21.2 version 3835. I'll keep testing. So far I would recommend destination for LFO modulations need to renamed to LFO instead of Mod3, Mod4 IMO..

Sorry, each 4 mod have different options: LFO, XLFO, MSEG, EG...

The_Anarchivist_00 · Post by **The_Anarchivist_00** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:51 am

Re: VST3 - DDMF Metaplugin seems to be working for me at the moment. And I am able to run up to 8x oversampling to boot. What a great sounding synth.

hlmst · Post by **hlmst** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:55 am

Fun fact - trying to assign more than 4 modulators to a parameter (via drag-drop) appears to produce a crash.

cyrb · Post by **cyrb** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:58 am

Charlatan3 appears to crash my DAW if left running for a long time (4-8 hours). I reproduced it three times so far.
Win10 using FL Studio 12. Ryzen 5600x CPU.
I basically left a MIDI sequence playing on loop using a modified LA 2019 patch, with some automation clips being applied.
Could be some sort of timer overflow in memory or something.

Some notes

- GUI does not have to be active (third try had GUI closed), so must be the audio thread.
- I also encountered an issue where returning to Charlatan3 after 2-3 hours of silence caused a 'signal burst', causing some weird DC offset issue - my DAW was reporting 100% volume and clipping but there was no sound. Changing patch and attempting to play a note would cause another signal burst, after I used the "panic" feature to stop all audio, so I had no choice but to reload the plugin entirely to stop the issue.

Seb Fox · Post by **Seb Fox** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:11 am

Hi!! thanks for the update, v3 is awesome!!
Inspired by this new version, I started a track on Ableton Live made entirely with Charlatan (drums, synth, etc.).... Everything was going well, until I set up some filter automations.
I have 9 instances of Charlatan, and if I remove the 2 that have filter automations, Ableton no longer crashes.
Map, or using macros, I think these automations are the cause of the crashes.
The moments when crashes occur can be varied: freezing a track, cropping an audio sample, selecting a track, switching off a device (synth, plugin, whatever)...
I hope these bugs will be fixed during this beta version, and I can't wait to try the final version!!!
Many thanks!
win10 - AL.11

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:50 am

cyrb wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:58 am Charlatan3 appears to crash my DAW if left running for a long time (4-8 hours). I reproduced it three times so far.
Win10 using FL Studio 12. Ryzen 5600x CPU.
I basically left a MIDI sequence playing on loop using a modified LA 2019 patch, with some automation clips being applied.
Could be some sort of timer overflow in memory or something.

Some notes

- GUI does not have to be active (third try had GUI closed), so must be the audio thread.
- I also encountered an issue where returning to Charlatan3 after 2-3 hours of silence caused a 'signal burst', causing some weird DC offset issue - my DAW was reporting 100% volume and clipping but there was no sound. Changing patch and attempting to play a note would cause another signal burst, after I used the "panic" feature to stop all audio, so I had no choice but to reload the plugin entirely to stop the issue.

Yes I noticed the weird noise after leaving my computer on for a while. In my case it sounded like the reverb had gone crazy and made an enormous crashing sound with every note I played

Odd Fella · Post by **Odd Fella** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:53 am

I have removed the plugin. I will wait a few months until it is mature.

Danilo Villanova · Post by **Danilo Villanova** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:03 pm

Crashing Reaper when changing presets (Win 10).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:06 pm

Odd Fella wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:53 am I have removed the plugin. I will wait a few months until it is mature.

Me too, TBH. Fair enough, it's labelled "beta".

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:29 pm

it works just great in FLStudio in case anyone is put off by bugginess but still wants to try it. I'm loving it, creating lots of presets

BackInCheck · Post by **BackInCheck** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:37 pm

Odd Fella wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:53 pm As someone already quoted, it seems that any pitch modulation applies to all 4 oscillators at once, except those, whose Ratio sinewave symbol is turned off.

Which is reasonable. I don't see many scenarios where I would want to have different pitch modulation for each oscillator or even sub-oscillator.

eb23 · Post by **eb23** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:34 pm

Perhaps a compromise could be reached by having the wavy-modulation-symbol having a third state, Inverted modulation. If the current architecture of the synth allows it easily...

Charlatan³ Free VA synth updated to v3.3.2 (Win/Linux)