Best DAW for comping?
- KVRian
- 1095 posts since 12 Jan, 2011
Reaper just released v7 with a new way to do track lanes and comping, which got me thinking . . . which DAW is best at comping (selecting, combining, crossfades, etc.).
I should clarify . . .
Any DAW can comp by recording several takes on several tracks, compare, slice and assemble the best bits onto one track, then crossfade.
However, many DAWs have created their own simplified way of doing this with take lanes, swipe comping, etc.
I should clarify . . .
Any DAW can comp by recording several takes on several tracks, compare, slice and assemble the best bits onto one track, then crossfade.
However, many DAWs have created their own simplified way of doing this with take lanes, swipe comping, etc.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1095 posts since 12 Jan, 2011
I watched a couple of YouTube vids about the new and improved comping in Reaper. It looks sweet. I wonder how it compares to other DAWs with good comping features and workflow.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1095 posts since 12 Jan, 2011
I have tried just about all of them that do comping, and they are all a little different in method and performance. And, some DAWs even offer more than one way to comp.VOODOO U wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:48 am To me comping is comping. Don't see any DAW adding anything special other than what's expected.
I could be wrong but I doubt it. I'm always write.
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 9 Oct, 2013 from uk
So, that's great - you've done the DAW comparison already... Nice. Which is your fave and why.? Feel free to obsess about it and go into some fine detail - I'm all ears.!tommyzai wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:50 pm I have tried just about all of them that do comping, and they are all a little different in method and performance. And, some DAWs even offer more than one way to comp.
I think I'm pretty much with 'Voodoo U' so far as comping goes (Cubase/S1 user here) - but willing to have my mind blown otherwise.
(BTW - haven't seen anything of the new Reaper 7 version yet)
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 9 Oct, 2013 from uk
Easy. In Cubase, record your 'takes' as you would - then right-click on the track and select 'Create Tracks from Lanes'. Boom.! All turned into individual tracks you can manipulate/treat as you wish. No resort to 'comping' tools/methods after this if you don't want.dellboy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:16 pm I hate comping. I just want to know how to turn it off in reaper and other Daws.
Wait. You're being ironic.?
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System 1 - Win11; i9 13900HK miniPC; 64Gb; Iris XE graphics; Cubase 15.0.10; Studio Pro v8.0.3;UR44 i/o
System 2 - Win10; i7 4790; 16Gb; GTX750Ti; Cubase v14.0.41; WLab Pro v12.0.51; StudioOne v6.6.4
System 2 - Win10; i7 4790; 16Gb; GTX750Ti; Cubase v14.0.41; WLab Pro v12.0.51; StudioOne v6.6.4
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1095 posts since 12 Jan, 2011
Once set up, I'm liking Reaper's new swipe comping.
ProTools is surgical but more manual and requires a couple of extra considerations, like inserting a blank track on top or you could lose the top take.
Ableton's comping is so new . . .
Logic has swiping and take folders that seem sweet
Studio One: "Each successive recorded take after the first can will be placed in its own layer, by enabling the Record Takes To Layers option in the Record panel"
FL Studio requires more manual work like slicing and moving
I even tried to do this on Bitwig (select take regions/fold to takes, etc.), Audacity and Audition (can't find it, other than multiple takes and splicing).
I have not tried in Cubase. I think they have a special comp thingy.
And so on . . .
I'm just wondering what other users discovered. Most probably just use what they have and make it work, so that's their favorite. Also, many genres/users don't rely heavily on recorded audio, so comping is not important.
ProTools is surgical but more manual and requires a couple of extra considerations, like inserting a blank track on top or you could lose the top take.
Ableton's comping is so new . . .
Logic has swiping and take folders that seem sweet
Studio One: "Each successive recorded take after the first can will be placed in its own layer, by enabling the Record Takes To Layers option in the Record panel"
FL Studio requires more manual work like slicing and moving
I even tried to do this on Bitwig (select take regions/fold to takes, etc.), Audacity and Audition (can't find it, other than multiple takes and splicing).
I have not tried in Cubase. I think they have a special comp thingy.
And so on . . .
I'm just wondering what other users discovered. Most probably just use what they have and make it work, so that's their favorite. Also, many genres/users don't rely heavily on recorded audio, so comping is not important.
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 9 Oct, 2013 from uk
Nice. Thanks.tommyzai wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:23 pm Once set up, I'm liking Reaper's new swipe comping.
ProTools is surgical but more manual and requires a couple of extra considerations, like inserting a blank track on top or you could lose the top take.
Ableton's comping is so new . . .
Logic has swiping and take folders that seem sweet
Studio One: "Each successive recorded take after the first can will be placed in its own layer, by enabling the Record Takes To Layers option in the Record panel"
FL Studio requires more manual work like slicing and moving
I even tried to do this on Bitwig, Audacity and Audition.
I have not tried in Cubase. I think they have a special comp thingy.
And so on . . .
I'm just wondering what other users discovered. Most probably just use what they have and make it work, so that's their favorite. Also, many genres/users don't rely heavily on recorded audio, so comping is not important.
Cubase 'swipe' comping method here - pretty fine for me (or, I've just got so used to it.!). Fade in/outs or crossfades between segments need attention from time to time though...
System 1 - Win11; i9 13900HK miniPC; 64Gb; Iris XE graphics; Cubase 15.0.10; Studio Pro v8.0.3;UR44 i/o
System 2 - Win10; i7 4790; 16Gb; GTX750Ti; Cubase v14.0.41; WLab Pro v12.0.51; StudioOne v6.6.4
System 2 - Win10; i7 4790; 16Gb; GTX750Ti; Cubase v14.0.41; WLab Pro v12.0.51; StudioOne v6.6.4
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1095 posts since 12 Jan, 2011
All major DAWs comp, now that Ableton Live has recently joined the party, but trust me when I say they all have their own unique way/steps . . . similar, but like the DAWs themselves . . . a slightly different way and workflow. Comping, for me, is vital as my current projects use lots of live instruments (bass, guitar, vocals, etc.). I just don't know which is the smoothest . . . just like I don't know which DAW is the smoothest. Personal preference or is there an obvious best at comping?
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
No, not being ironic. I just want the Daw to record like a tape recorder. I prefer to just delete a take and try again until I get it right. So I want to hit record - play - hit space to stop - and on to the next track.thebutler wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:20 pmEasy. In Cubase, record your 'takes' as you would - then right-click on the track and select 'Create Tracks from Lanes'. Boom.! All turned into individual tracks you can manipulate/treat as you wish. No resort to 'comping' tools/methods after this if you don't want.dellboy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:16 pm I hate comping. I just want to know how to turn it off in reaper and other Daws.
Wait. You're being ironic.?
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1095 posts since 12 Jan, 2011
I used to do that, but then you are punch recording and physically splicing together tape if working in larger formats (not cassette).dellboy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:57 pmNo, not being ironic. I just want the Daw to record like a tape recorder. I prefer to just delete a take and try again until I get it right. So I want to hit record - play - hit space to stop - and on to the next track.thebutler wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:20 pmEasy. In Cubase, record your 'takes' as you would - then right-click on the track and select 'Create Tracks from Lanes'. Boom.! All turned into individual tracks you can manipulate/treat as you wish. No resort to 'comping' tools/methods after this if you don't want.dellboy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:16 pm I hate comping. I just want to know how to turn it off in reaper and other Daws.
Wait. You're being ironic.?
- KVRAF
- 25013 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
WTF? Sorry, but that makes zero sense. You "turn off" comping by not comping, i.e.dellboy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:57 pmNo, not being ironic. I just want the Daw to record like a tape recorder. I prefer to just delete a take and try again until I get it right. So I want to hit record - play - hit space to stop - and on to the next track.thebutler wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:20 pmEasy. In Cubase, record your 'takes' as you would - then right-click on the track and select 'Create Tracks from Lanes'. Boom.! All turned into individual tracks you can manipulate/treat as you wish. No resort to 'comping' tools/methods after this if you don't want.dellboy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:16 pm I hate comping. I just want to know how to turn it off in reaper and other Daws.
Wait. You're being ironic.?
you "hit record - play - hit space to stop - and on to the next track."
Any DAW is exactly the same in that regard.