Rhodes emulations?
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Septic Underground Septic Underground https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=544534
- KVRist
- 434 posts since 27 Dec, 2021 from Nederland
Strange that the officially endorsed one isn't listed: https://rhodesmusic.com/rhodes-v8-plugin/
No experience with it, but maybe something to research on yourself.
No experience with it, but maybe something to research on yourself.
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- KVRAF
- 2596 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
I was actually going to say something similar. It's really good, though they stop short and stick to the features you can find on their actual Mk 8. This does include the customisable way you can have it setup, making the tone highly configurable.Septic Underground wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:15 am Strange that the officially endorsed one isn't listed: https://rhodesmusic.com/rhodes-v8-plugin/
No experience with it, but maybe something to research on yourself.
All in all it's one of my favourite Rhodes emulations out there. If I want more flexible effects I can just tack on one of my kazillion plugins and take the sound anywhere I want it to go. So I don't see it as an issue.
The other one is by Waves, Electric 88. That one's good too, it sounds a little road worn which is just how I like them. The Formant control is really cool on that one too.
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- KVRAF
- 9114 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
The Rhodes music emu is perhaps too exact... It brought back everything I hated about my old suitcase and stage pianos from the 60s/70s.
And it was a long love/hate relationship that went into the late 80s. It's also the one keyboard that kept me working and gave me the most cash flow through those decades.
I haven't seen any mention of the Arturia electrics here yet, so I think they're worth mentioning as well.
I have many of the ones already mentioned here, but my favorites are continually Pianoteq and Lounge Lizard. They're everything I loved about my old real electric without the hate. (Which was mainly weight, maintenance, and not the best playability.)
And it was a long love/hate relationship that went into the late 80s. It's also the one keyboard that kept me working and gave me the most cash flow through those decades.
I haven't seen any mention of the Arturia electrics here yet, so I think they're worth mentioning as well.
I have many of the ones already mentioned here, but my favorites are continually Pianoteq and Lounge Lizard. They're everything I loved about my old real electric without the hate. (Which was mainly weight, maintenance, and not the best playability.)
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
indeed, I agree...Jafo wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:53 am Adding Pianoteq and Scarbee to the list, but honestly, the standard is so high that at this point it's about subtle flavor rather than anything else.
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- KVRAF
- 1791 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
another vote for Scarbee. The 88S is indeed nice, but Scarbee Vintage Keys (particularly the Mk1 and the wurli) have been my go-to for years. (i also like subtly layering some Una Corda or Noire underneath the rhodes, but mostly for a bit of felt/mechanical noises, not as much the actual piano tone)
Soniccouture makes some lovely keys, full of character. I'm not real into the Canterbury (tone is a bit too "strident" for my tastes), but it is a very solid library and if you like that sort of barking tone, it nails it. (the Scarbee Mk1 still barks a bit like that, but only at really high velocity). Broken Wurli and EP73 Deconstructed are gems.
interestingly, i like pianoteq's electric keys more than their acoustic piano stuff, but i've only tried a few.
Soniccouture makes some lovely keys, full of character. I'm not real into the Canterbury (tone is a bit too "strident" for my tastes), but it is a very solid library and if you like that sort of barking tone, it nails it. (the Scarbee Mk1 still barks a bit like that, but only at really high velocity). Broken Wurli and EP73 Deconstructed are gems.
interestingly, i like pianoteq's electric keys more than their acoustic piano stuff, but i've only tried a few.
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 8 Jan, 2009 from Los Angeles
AFAIK, the only thing that the current Rhodes company has in common with the company that put out the most desired Mk1 and Mk2 models is the name. That name has been sold many times and the current holder has no lineage from the prior owners.Septic Underground wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:15 am Strange that the officially endorsed one isn't listed
That said, when I demoed their V8 plugin it was buggy, but had a very good sound with more consistent dynamics than you usually get with other products. It was also vastly overpriced.
- KVRAF
- 4314 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
I made a free electric piano rompler a couple of years ago, it's not the best but it's certainly usable: https://www.samplescience.info/2021/01/four-ep.html
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 28 Oct, 2023
A bit off-topic, but the one Rhodes emulation I long to see is the Chroma:
That thing was an absolute beast!
....anyhow, I use AAS Lounge Lizard as it's more of a synthesis tool for strange pianos than a perfect emulation. Other emulations are better for authenticity.
That thing was an absolute beast!
....anyhow, I use AAS Lounge Lizard as it's more of a synthesis tool for strange pianos than a perfect emulation. Other emulations are better for authenticity.
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 24 Jul, 2006
V-tines is a modeller though, probably the deepest given that you can even alter each tine's distance to the pickup.electro wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:06 pm UAD Electra 88 Vintage Keyboard Studio
Acoustic Samples V-Tines
Those two have the sonic authenticity the modellers don't.
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- KVRAF
- 5515 posts since 6 May, 2002
Spectral synthesis is sampling with less shortcomings.
NikkiA wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:29 amV-tines is a modeller though, probably the deepest given that you can even alter each tine's distance to the pickup.electro wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:06 pm UAD Electra 88 Vintage Keyboard Studio
Acoustic Samples V-Tines
Those two have the sonic authenticity the modellers don't.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
not at all imo...i have never heard additive synthesis (spectral synthesis) capture the full amount of timbre information of pcm sampling
vtines is a hybrid...using samples and synthesis in the falcon engine...probably in the same tradition of hardware workstations using samples for the attacks and synthesizing the rest of the envelope
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
sure...that's one of the benefits...they say directly that it's hybrid on their site...i think they have gone hybrid overall for their instruments since they moved from kontakt to falcon
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRAF
- 2824 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from cornwall
I have the NI Scarbee and Pianoteq Rhodes and Pianoteq is my favourite.
I like the sound of V-Tines as well but am very happy with the Pianoteq Rhodes.
I like the sound of V-Tines as well but am very happy with the Pianoteq Rhodes.
