Is Serum worth cashing out for, when you get Vital for free?

[martiu]

Serum best wavetable synth, i seriously pimped mine with 80s pads samples in the noises folder, enjoy now

[dbeats365]

It absolutely is, sound design is on a higher level. Plus you have a lot more presets packs out there.

[swilow11]

Using both is the best. There are things Serum doesn't do as well- like not being able to snap LFO nodes to grid- and there are things Vital doesn't do as well- wavetable editing, inability to modulate LFO nodes- for example.

That said, I feel more confident that Serum will persist and less so about Vital so I have recently started using the former more than the latter.

[liquidsound]

There are things Serum doesn't do as well- like not being able to snap LFO nodes to grid

Of course it does.

[FarleyCZ]

Serum has a status of cult classic. Vital can compete feature-wise. That wavetable editor is IMO amazing for example. But ... Serum gained the "of course you need Serum" kind of status, that is purely nostalgic and really tough to break. And honestly ... for a good reason. We all got used to it so much it's de-facto the way we think about synthesis now.

[4damind]

Serum has become something like the "standard". Which is probably because it's used by many big names, especially in EDM (David Guetta, Deadmau, etc.).
I don't know Vital but from the videos the synth seems to have a similar functionality as Serum. I think if you can't get a good sound with the free version of Vital, you won't with Serum.
But... if you have less experience with synth programming, it might be better to go for a synth that has a wider usage and where there are also many tutorials (this might be more the case with Serum).

[liquidsound]

If you worked with Serum and Vital, if you REALLY worked with both in a deeper way, you are going to find that the quality of Serum sounds is inevitably better, pristine…
I’am not talking about A/B test because that’s is too limited to the tester trying to generate the same sound. The overall structure of the sound including the FX and filters are a world apart.

But this is not to be believed or understood of even perceived by the majority of users going through presets alone (even though if your setup is above average, that too is enough to feel it).

I own both, of course.
But, who care right? We hear what we want to hear…. There you go, we are all right and wrong… and that’s good for Vital

[Dencheg]

Yes

[PieBerger]

But this is not to be believed or understood of even perceived by the majority of users going through presets alone

The factory presets for both are pretty damn awful tbh

[liquidsound]

But this is not to be believed or understood of even perceived by the majority of users going through presets alone

The factory presets for both are pretty damn awful tbh

I know!!!

The Sound Author made some phenomenal presets for Vital called, IIRC, Electra 1 and 2.

And The Unfinished did for Serum… great stuff.

[swilow11]

There are things Serum doesn't do as well- like not being able to snap LFO nodes to grid

Of course it does.

Dude, you've totally changed my assessment of Serum. My excuse is I've only been using it for 2 months I should just stfu.

[martiu]

dude i just found free spectral synth that can export 1 sec mono wav files from pictures, so i grabbed one of those and dropped in serum and save it as wavetable, it will be my personal Serum wavetable maker, sick

[liquidsound]

There are things Serum doesn't do as well- like not being able to snap LFO nodes to grid

Of course it does.

Dude, you've totally changed my assessment of Serum. My excuse is I've only been using it for 2 months I should just stfu.

We all learn something new daily.
And don’t forget to play with the OSC remap function.

Now I need to learn what “martiu” is talking about

[liquidsound]

Double

[dayjob]

is the apple silicon native version still a beta ya have to grab from the forum?

been reading about serum for ages and eventually gonna buy it. haven't looked stuff lately but wondering status of it. i know DMG developer is working with steve duda on the next version but beyond that.. idk recent sh1t about it.