So, what's the best-sounding subtractive, non-uber synth?
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Since the highest Quality of Diva is also the lowest Quality of Repro, thats the Answer.
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I don't like the sound character of either one, frankly. I don't care about authentic analog sound, in fact, I probably dislike it.El°HYM wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:22 pm Since the highest Quality of Diva is also the lowest Quality of Repro, thats the Answer.
I only want a subtractive synth because I know how it works, not because I want that harsh analog sound.
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Whats a harsh analog sound?
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- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Seems that you are a bit limited in using Virtual Analog Synths. They can produce the smoothest butter like sounds, far more than any other synthesis method.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:27 pm I don't like the sound character of either one, frankly. I don't care about authentic analog sound, in fact, I probably dislike it.
I only want a subtractive synth because I know how it works, not because I want that harsh analog sound.
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Nah, I know how to program subtractive synths.martinjuenke wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:37 pmSeems that you are a bit limited in using Virtual Analog Synths. They can produce the smoothest butter like sounds, far more than any other synthesis method.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:27 pm I don't like the sound character of either one, frankly. I don't care about authentic analog sound, in fact, I probably dislike it.
I only want a subtractive synth because I know how it works, not because I want that harsh analog sound.
Even the expensive Jupiter 8 sounded harsh to my ears. It sounded good on albums because of all the processing.
- KVRAF
- 19818 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Unrealistic expectations lead to inevitable disappointment. Sounds like you don't really have a clue what you are looking for or even how to find it. Every one of those synths that you dislike are excellent recommendations based on what you asked. But it does require you to have a least a modicum of skills to appreciate how good those synths actually are especially to those who know how to use them.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:12 pm Most of what you suggested I already know and dislike for one reason or another (Diva, Dune, Sylenth1, Saurus, Tal Mod etc.).
If all you're going to do is look for any perceived imperfection then you'll never progress one inch. Repeat after me...nothing is perfect. Growth comes from learning how to overcome imperfections.
That's like a painter saying "I only want to use one color for every painting". Fine, knock yourself out but realize that every one of your paintings is going to look pretty much the same.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:13 pmTo the contrary, I only want to use a single synth for everything.
Thank you being the voice of reason.Lbdunequest wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:38 pm Another name your favourite synth list by the same people. Please mods lock this useless tread.
They won't lock it any more than they have the thousand of other similar threads but at least move it to the "Getting Started" thread where newbies belong.
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Guy doesn't like Roland synths! Doesn't like Moog, doesn't like Sequential, doesn't like Korg. What can you do!
Hint: stop wasting our time.
Hint: stop wasting our time.
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You shouldn't make such judgements about people you don't know, just because they don't share your views.Teksonik wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:49 pmUnrealistic expectations lead to inevitable disappointment. Sounds like you don't really have a clue what you are looking for or even how to find it. Every one of those synths that you dislike are excellent recommendations based on what you asked. But it does require you to have a least a modicum of skills to appreciate how good those synths actually are especially to those who know how to use them.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:12 pm Most of what you suggested I already know and dislike for one reason or another (Diva, Dune, Sylenth1, Saurus, Tal Mod etc.).
If all you're going to do is look for any perceived imperfection then you'll never progress one inch. Repeat after me...nothing is perfect. Growth comes from learning how to overcome imperfections.
That's like a painter saying "I only want to use one color for every painting". Fine, knock yourself out but realize that every one of your paintings is going to look pretty much the same.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:13 pmTo the contrary, I only want to use a single synth for everything.
Thank you being the voice of reason.Lbdunequest wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:38 pm Another name your favourite synth list by the same people. Please mods lock this useless tread.![]()
They won't lock it any more than they have the thousand of other similar threads but at least move it to the "Getting Started" thread where newbies belong.
You can save your bla bla bla for little children.
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Again, I am not looking for an emulation of any hardware synth.egbert101 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:59 pm Guy doesn't like Roland synths! Doesn't like Moog, doesn't like Sequential, doesn't like Korg. What can you do!
Hint: stop wasting our time.
I do like Moog for basses, though. But also Roland. In fact, basses are easier to make sound good because you don't have the voice interaction etc.
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- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Finally another senseless and toxic thread.
Congratulation
Congratulation
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There's a demo of this one from them at the bottom of the page. It's got a 24db filter and is on sale: https://www.gforcesoftware.com/products/minimonsta2/Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:58 pm I like the new Oberheim emulation, if only it had a 24db filter. But it sounds pleasant to my ears, very different from Diva for instance.
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- 3674 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Thats a Moog and he doesnt like Hardware Emulations, except moog for Basses and sometimes Roland. Bass is easier because they dont have Voice Interaction and a Jupiter 8 sounds good with all that processing.
Please BONES return now.
Please BONES return now.
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- 19818 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
From our interactions, I have the feeling you are a little child or at least act like one that is beyond spoiled.Odd Fella wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:02 pm You shouldn't make such judgements about people you don't know, just because they don't share your views.
You can save your bla bla bla for little children.
Ok, good luck with your mythical quest for perfection. The rest of us will keep on using all the great synths that have been recommended here.
As always there are people who complain about synths and then are those who actually use them. I'll give you one guess which people are more productive.
So with that in mind I'm going to go use many of the synths recommended here that you can't seem to get your head around.......
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