Waldorf Largo 2

[aMUSEd]

You would think but Nave has had the same issue for years and they have not fixed it (it’s even worse with Nave as it doesn’t even save with a project)

Seriously? Oh lord. That's really bad. Let's hope the developers at Waldorf does something about it now when there are two apps behaving the same.

Yeah I hope

Incidentally I was converting your Largo Bass Expander patches to NKS for Largo 2 but noticed it's not for sale anymore on your site? Was always one of my favourite banks.

[EvilDragon]

I would be happy with just 4x oversampling option

Easy. Use Reaper, it has per plugin oversampling.

[chk071]

Call me stupid, but... Largo surely is oversampled internally?

[DrGonzo]

Incidentally I was converting your Largo Bass Expander patches to NKS for Largo 2 but noticed it's not for sale anymore on your site? Was always one of my favourite banks.

You are way too kind. Maybe I should set that bank free. Yeah... I should. Feels timely.

[aMUSEd]

Incidentally I was converting your Largo Bass Expander patches to NKS for Largo 2 but noticed it's not for sale anymore on your site? Was always one of my favourite banks.

You are way too kind. Maybe I should set that bank free. Yeah... I should. Feels timely.

That would be nice, then I could supply the NKS as well

[Aloysius]

Call me stupid, but... Largo surely is oversampled internally?

Probably undersampled and undercooked.

[EvilDragon]

Call me stupid, but... Largo surely is oversampled internally?

Doubt it. Probably just band-limited.

[chk071]

Any way to figure that out? I mean, I see that it's frequency limited in SPAN, but, IIRC, that also could be mipmapping, or how that technique was called.

[hcv242]

I would be happy with just 4x oversampling option

Easy. Use Reaper, it has per plugin oversampling.

i know people have different notions of easiness, but changing a daw that i have learned for years over another daw is NOT easy. It's not practical, at all. it would be much easier to run my daw at twice the sample rate that i am using. just that alone makes largo sound SO, but so much better. the first preset sounds amazing at 96khz. unfortunately I just cant run my projects at that rate for a number of reasons.

[EvilDragon]

I was a bit tongue in cheek. But it was just so you know, what you want is already possible in some ways. Up to you if you want to take it up or not. There's also a way to route audio between your DAW and and Reaper in order to make it happen (this is what ReaStream is used for, say), so then you don't necessarily have to leave your DAW.

[xalama qo]

There is a plugin called Oversampler, which might be 32bit only, but is worth googling anyway. It's one of those where it lives in the same folder as the plugin you want to oversample, but you have to rename it to *plugin*.os.dll and then it hijacks the audio coming from the plugin and oversamples it. Only 2x iirc. Audible improvement on some subjects. I used to use it on BazilleCM because I think the quality modes had been a little crippled on that. Mileage will vary.

[Aliens]

if you don't respetc me or my work,don't expect anything different from me neither

Finally a deal of yours worth buying in to

[Touch The Universe]

What makes me really angry about this entire distopia is that some programmers and their brain washed blind folowers let themsaelf freely to insult,underestimate,reject,speak against work and value of devolted designers,but we have no rights to do same...obviously i don't see it this way - if you don't respetc me or my work,don't expect anything different from me neither...not very christian logic but i am going mad ,when a mediocre people start to think they are the best thing universe ever created...and there is a lot of these guy here hahahahaha

If you're talking about my response, it was just questions as you called developers greedy...

Synths can take people months or years to program. Say 50 weeks.

A soundbank maybe a couple of weeks.

A soundbank doesn't usually cost 1/25 of a synth. So who's overcharging?

A developer of synth might sell 1000-5000, or more copies, so that could be 100,000 or more a release. A sound Designer might sell 5-100, some sell a lot more, but usually if they have a huge social media accounts - think famous musician or youtuber. THAT is the key to success in sound design - as in every single thing in life that doesn't revolve around a career. In fact, most job also rely on marketing - The world is marketing.

I don't have success as a sound designer. To even make a living, this is the real price, 40 presets for $20. It is what it is. My last bank I make 700 presets and 400WT for Serum as an experiment. It doesn't matter the quality or amount. I can't stress it enough. Sound Design is pointless unless you rise above a certain level of threshold on the social media levels. If that is the case, then one could make a living on sound design alone and perhaps at that level, one MIGHT be able to argue over valued, but on the whole, for small fry, don't be so quick to judge.

How much would you expect to make on a soundset that takes two weeks to a month to make? There are so many factors involved. But who would work all year long making presets for 15-20K a year? Anyone?

Well, I have, and for quite some time. It fits my personality, though I'm poor, but I've discovered long ago how far removed poverty is from being a burden. I do have another job, Door Dash, another that fits my personality, so I can finally start making perhaps above 35-40K next year, and if things go well with Plugin Guru, perhaps I'll keep making presets, but only for Unify, but even that is not guarenteed. One bank for Him generated atleast two months work for me. I see very clearly how important a youtube channel is. I may stop sound desiging 90 percent and focus on my youtube channel. That would make logical sense.

I could sell my car, use it to get hard money on a cash buy real estate deal and make 50K in a matter of months as well, which is what my goal is currently. But as it stands, more and more does it make less sense to continue sound designing.

I can make 5-10 delivers in doordash at 20 dollars an hour, work 4 hours a day, and make more in sound design.

I'm not saying anyone is wrong or right to complain about market prices. Yes, banks might be expensive is one is generating 10K for two weeks of work, but that for a narrow band of people with atleast 50K followers on there social media accounts. For everyone else, we aren't charging nearly enough OR are offering a STUPID amount of presets for, mostly for free.

Just some thoughts to consider.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

I am not talking about the money even anymore,but respect for users ,especially the enthusiasts.
What i don't understand is why somebody who make 100,200,300 000 per year thanks to my and your money can't say hey guys how are you doing,you made super interesting bass with my synth bravo... just normal friendly conversation and positive attitude...instead of that cold ,hostile i don't give a fk about you all' ,but your money only...sorry about my temper,but i speak my mind and it's just not fair this way,especially when you feed somebody for decades...anyway Largo 2 is amazing upgrade, buy it now ...hahahaha ::):)

[EnGee]

There is a plugin called Oversampler, which might be 32bit only, but is worth googling anyway. It's one of those where it lives in the same folder as the plugin you want to oversample, but you have to rename it to *plugin*.os.dll and then it hijacks the audio coming from the plugin and oversamples it. Only 2x iirc. Audible improvement on some subjects. I used to use it on BazilleCM because I think the quality modes had been a little crippled on that. Mileage will vary.

I believe that once aliasing happens, oversampling can't fix it. So, I believe that oversampling should be implemented internally to prevent or minimize aliasing. Anyway, although I prefer an option to set the oversampling, I'm not obsessed with it. I'm still using some old digital synths without a problem