The Beatles - Now and Then

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I’m surprised there’s not a thread about this yet, but this is such a cool story…



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…and song…

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Of the 3 songs they re-worked, I think 'Real Love' is my favourite. This sounded a bit of a mess, imo.
The 'B' side is a remixed Love Me Do. I'm more impressed with that, given it used PJ's tech to de-mix the original. Bodes well for remixes of all their stuff up to Rubber Soul + Magical Mystery Tour.
“The Generals sat, and the lines on the map, moved from side to side.”
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To me, it doesn't quite have the same amazing ability to capture your mind, ear and heart as per the very top-tier Beatles songs (eg, 'A Day in the Life', 'Strawberry Fields Forever', 'Eleanor Rigby' or 'Something' etc).
And it lacks lyrical depth and variety, due to it being based around one of John Lennon's unfinished musical sketches.

But it's still a good Beatles song, where the instrumentation / arrangement is not only 'quintessential Beatles' (and particularly the string arrangement by Martin jnr), but it also has a lovely, melodious flow which sticks with you after the tune is finished.

Of course, if it wasn't for the leaps in technology - and the hard work to put this to good use for this track by Jackson's team (and also the Beatles) - we wouldn't have this sweet Beatles track made nearly 55 years after they disbanded.

So although it's not one of the Beatles' songs that I'll be replaying as much as their more brilliant (imo) songs, it's still a wonderful thing to be able to listen to now and then.

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For me, the 'modern' feel takes away a lot of what makes The Beatles great. I would rather they just released the unfinished demo with some others, as-is, as a 'collection album'.

I'm not a huge fan of remakes though, in general. I suspect that we'll have yet more, with 'AI' on the way. I'd rather the originals stand for themselves, with minimal adjustment.

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Another one of Lennon's garbage songs (he openly admitted even in the famous 1980 playboy interview that much of his Beatles input was "garbage", his words) so nothing surprising here, just that unlike the Beatles days, Paul is no longer the magician who can take Lennon's bad songs and make them better plus the production sounds extremely sterile, it takes away any human feel, the demo was much better, as shallow as the lyrics and the melody are, the demo had real feelings and was even touching in parts

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Here is the video for it:

“The Generals sat, and the lines on the map, moved from side to side.”
― Pink Floyd

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Soon, there will be no Beatles, only AI....

"I Wanna Hold Your 'End-of-arm Tooling' (EOAT)"

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This new, Now and Then - no AI saves a bad song.

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Holy shitsnacks, people. It's a pop song. Would it have made it as a single? No. Would it have been a decent song on The Beatles (White Album) or Let It Be? Sure. I listened to it once, and the melody has already stuck with me, as is one of their major superpowers.

Listening to John talk about what he thought of his songs is worthless, because he hated most of his songs, including ones that are now almost universally thought of as masterpieces. I, for one, welcome our robot overlords. :lol:
Zerocrossing Media

4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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zerocrossing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:50 pm I, for one, welcome our robot overlords. :lol:
A robot doesn't rebel. That's what makes a robot a robot. It reaponds to syntax without judgements.
Rebellion is what allows creativity otherwise nothing is broke, no need for a fixing.
The ability to rebel is what is conscious awareness but it first needs threat.
This is physical reality, what we experience as the awake state.
The sense of threat conjures the rebellion ( in all therefore it's legion).
Sex in the procreative state is nothing more than a rebellion against the unknown (death).
Just like hunger is a rebellion against the unknown.
So, the question is, what is the unknown?

Threat.

A robot knows. Always. Without knowing that it knows otherwise it's not robot.

That which operates the human system without the need for consciousness to interfere is robot. The syntax made by that which is deliberately unknown -yet experienced.
This is sub consciousness, and it can do what A.I. does and more so. Consciousness can program it (utilization of brain beyond 10%) but needs the herbs/plants to do so.
Plants are the ancestors. The keys. Beyond human flesh, they came before all.

Do not succumb to the A.I. made by science. It will only lead to destruction of experience made possible by that which demands true freedom.

In short.....you're a twat face if you like robots.

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I just listened to Now and Then for the first time... It sounds like Wagtunes... Make of that what you will. :hihi:

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VOODOO U wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:23 pm
In short.....you're a twat face if you like robots.
is the same true of droids?
:ud:

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VOODOO U wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:23 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:50 pm I, for one, welcome our robot overlords. :lol:
A robot doesn't rebel. That's what makes a robot a robot. It reaponds to syntax without judgements.
Rebellion is what allows creativity otherwise nothing is broke, no need for a fixing.
The ability to rebel is what is conscious awareness but it first needs threat.
This is physical reality, what we experience as the awake state.
The sense of threat conjures the rebellion ( in all therefore it's legion).
Sex in the procreative state is nothing more than a rebellion against the unknown (death).
Just like hunger is a rebellion against the unknown.
So, the question is, what is the unknown?

Threat.

A robot knows. Always. Without knowing that it knows otherwise it's not robot.

That which operates the human system without the need for consciousness to interfere is robot. The syntax made by that which is deliberately unknown -yet experienced.
This is sub consciousness, and it can do what A.I. does and more so. Consciousness can program it (utilization of brain beyond 10%) but needs the herbs/plants to do so.
Plants are the ancestors. The keys. Beyond human flesh, they came before all.

Do not succumb to the A.I. made by science. It will only lead to destruction of experience made possible by that which demands true freedom.

In short.....you're a twat face if you like robots.
So tell me, how did you become a twat face and manage to hate robots?
Zerocrossing Media

4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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an-electric-heart wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:41 pm I just listened to Now and Then for the first time... It sounds like Wagtunes... Make of that what you will. :hihi:
He wishes.
Zerocrossing Media

4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~

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VOODOO U wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:23 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:50 pm I, for one, welcome our robot overlords. :lol:
A robot doesn't rebel. That's what makes a robot a robot. It reaponds to syntax without judgements.
Rebellion is what allows creativity otherwise nothing is broke, no need for a fixing.
The ability to rebel is what is conscious awareness but it first needs threat.
This is physical reality, what we experience as the awake state.
The sense of threat conjures the rebellion ( in all therefore it's legion).
Sex in the procreative state is nothing more than a rebellion against the unknown (death).
Just like hunger is a rebellion against the unknown.
So, the question is, what is the unknown?

Threat.

A robot knows. Always. Without knowing that it knows otherwise it's not robot.

That which operates the human system without the need for consciousness to interfere is robot. The syntax made by that which is deliberately unknown -yet experienced.
This is sub consciousness, and it can do what A.I. does and more so. Consciousness can program it (utilization of brain beyond 10%) but needs the herbs/plants to do so.
Plants are the ancestors. The keys. Beyond human flesh, they came before all.

Do not succumb to the A.I. made by science. It will only lead to destruction of experience made possible by that which demands true freedom.

In short.....you're a twat face if you like robots.
What if I were to tell you that the Cosmos was carefully calibrated long ago to result in this exact post, posted by you, at that particular moment?

Edit: Also, "twat face" is rather misogynistic. Have you been having some romantic difficulties, or do you just hate women in general despite having been (presumably) born from and raised by a woman?
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