How long is black friday for usually?

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felis wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:12 pm There's no real reason for software to have Black Friday.
It sells like hot cakes though. ;)

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Spring sales are better, you often get better prices in spring

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Last I checked Black Friday was 24 hours, like most Friday

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Thursday is the new Friday according to modern labour habits (see 4-day workweek).

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The day after "all saints day" (Nov 3rd?) until the Sunday before Cyber Monday...

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I've seen Black Friday ads on TV in the summer. It's a thing now, like christmas all year.

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Black Friday turns into Black week, then month, then year. Sales are all year round. Anyone who thinks they only save money on November 24th are morons.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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Frankie.T wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:24 pm Haha i have no clue about the real BF. I heard about it with Amazon for the first time and i see they started BF today, so i guessed was today.
The history of Black Friday is rather perverse.

Black Friday as a term originally entered popular consciousness coined for a day over a century ago in the stock market when trading got so ugly that some bankers committed suicide by jumping out of windows, or so the legend has it. Memorialized most musically by Steely Dan in their 1975 song of the same name.

At some point (1950s-1960s?), as marketing became a more and more dominant industry, the meaning took an almost 180 degree term turn and it began to be used (likely in newspapers or trade mags) to refer to the day when retailers started turning a profit for the year. The red ink in the accounting books turned to black. It was considered a watershed day, worthy of celebration and reward to customers because for the next 5 weeks revenues were all profit, going into the most wonderful time of the year. Subject to any scrutiny, it's all sort of b.s. But don't let that stop you from opening your wallet to spend, and what is this scrutiny? Buy now!

From its midcentury pivot, the concept morphed through the 1980s and 1990s (with the 24-hour news cycle) into most specifically the shopping day after Thanksgiving in the United States, which was voraciously covered by the news as this grotesque parody ... best illustrated by the people of WalMart stooping to fisticuffs over limited quantities of cheap gaming consoles at 12:01am on Friday morning while overworked and underpaid staff forewent their holiday time off on (for certain) the most family oriented holiday in the United States. Perverse ain't it?

Then it entered the Internet, always on, era, and the frenzy grew even further to what you witness today, a global what day is Black Friday sales frenzy phenomena that starts when the calendar turns to November and ends after New Years. A small history lesson, perhaps not all completely accurate, but cited from memory and not in consultation with wikipedia or chatGPT. But as you see, multiply perverted from its original incantation.

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kidslow wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:34 am
Frankie.T wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:24 pm Haha i have no clue about the real BF. I heard about it with Amazon for the first time and i see they started BF today, so i guessed was today.
The history of Black Friday is rather perverse.

Black Friday as a term originally entered popular consciousness coined for a day over a century ago in the stock market when trading got so ugly that some bankers committed suicide by jumping out of windows, or so the legend has it. Memorialized most musically by Steely Dan in their 1975 song of the same name.

At some point (1950s-1960s?), as marketing became a more and more dominant industry, the meaning took an almost 180 degree term turn and it began to be used (likely in newspapers or trade mags) to refer to the day when retailers started turning a profit for the year. The red ink in the accounting books turned to black. It was considered a watershed day, worthy of celebration and reward to customers because for the next 5 weeks revenues were all profit, going into the most wonderful time of the year. Subject to any scrutiny, it's all sort of b.s. But don't let that stop you from opening your wallet to spend, and what is this scrutiny? Buy now!

From its midcentury pivot, the concept morphed through the 1980s and 1990s (with the 24-hour news cycle) into most specifically the shopping day after Thanksgiving in the United States, which was voraciously covered by the news as this grotesque parody ... best illustrated by the people of WalMart stooping to fisticuffs over limited quantities of cheap gaming consoles at 12:01am on Friday morning while overworked and underpaid staff forewent their holiday time off on (for certain) the most family oriented holiday in the United States. Perverse ain't it?

Then it entered the Internet, always on, era, and the frenzy grew even further to what you witness today, a global what day is Black Friday sales frenzy phenomena that starts when the calendar turns to November and ends after New Years. A small history lesson, perhaps not all completely accurate, but cited from memory and not in consultation with wikipedia or chatGPT. But as you see, multiply perverted from its original incantation.
Thank you for your post, it's very interesting!

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4 foot 1 sir.
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So-called "Black Friday" sales events do not last for a "usual" or fixed interval of time, but instead go on for longer and longer every year.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... increasing

I've been around long enough to remember when Black Friday sales events were actually less than 24 hours because stores were closed on Thanksgiving Day and didn't open until something like 6 AM on Black Friday. Prices went back up on Saturday. Other concurrent sales events were not called "Black Friday" sales. Now so-called "Black Friday" sales events seem to go on longer than a month.

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DaveClark wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:58 pm So-called "Black Friday" sales events do not last for a "usual" or fixed interval of time, but instead go on for longer and longer every year.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... increasing

I've been around long enough to remember when Black Friday sales events were actually less than 24 hours because stores were closed on Thanksgiving Day and didn't open until something like 6 AM on Black Friday. Prices went back up on Saturday. Other concurrent sales events were not called "Black Friday" sales. Now so-called "Black Friday" sales events seem to go on longer than a month.
This means that, logically, Black Friday will soon last longer than existence of the known universe.

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Black friday have become Black Month.

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Bunny_boy wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:55 pm This means that, logically, Black Friday will soon last longer than existence of the known universe.
Eventually yes (or asymptotically approach the age)! But not necessarily soon.

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kidslow wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:34 am At some point (1950s-1960s?), as marketing became a more and more dominant industry, the meaning took an almost 180 degree term turn and it began to be used (likely in newspapers or trade mags) to refer to the day when retailers started turning a profit for the year. The red ink in the accounting books turned to black.
Philadelphia cops started calling it "Black Friday" in the 50s or 60s because it was a day they hated, between the shopping crowds and people coming in from out of state to watch the Army-Navy football game, and they weren't allowed to take the day off. It got the marketing-speak makeover in the 80s.

https://www.history.com/news/black-frid ... ns-history
https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is ... ack-friday

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