VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[noiseboyuk]

Q4untum effects folder is empty here - the video demo has a ton of great sounding presets. Help - where d'it go?

EDIT - true of all the new effects it seems.

Clearly you bought the cheap standard version.

The Deluxe version that I bought sure has it....

ps that was meant as a joke, there is no standard or deluxe version...but yeah mine has it, on both mac and pc..

Ha - weird. I can see on disk all the new fx preset subfolders are empty. Something screwed up in the install - I did manually install the Factory Content 2 cos VManager wasn't working, wonder if that's it?

EDIT - Yes, that was it. With Vman up and running again I deleted my manually downloaded expansion and reinstalled via Vman. Voila, everything now showing up.

[zvenx]

Q4untum effects folder is empty here - the video demo has a ton of great sounding presets. Help - where d'it go?

EDIT - true of all the new effects it seems.

You need to download the Factory 2 bank. I had the same problem.

I have Factory Content 2 installed, but there's nothing showing up in those new effects. Are there FX presets that need a separate download somewhere?

No...
Strange... I have my Vengeance folder on an external hd and I know this update reset it so I had to change it back.. not sure if something like that happened to you.

I assume you at least see the factory 2 presets for the synth itself?
rsp

[c0nsilience]

Trying to access my 'User Account'. Yep, their servers are crashed. Hehe

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[bmanic]

This is not a standard procedure and it is the same as if the old version of Windows could not open new programs and the user had to buy a new version of the operating system every time.

Complete bollocks. In fact, this DOES happen. New software isn't backwards compatible indefinitely, nor does it have to be. It's nice if it is but that's completely up to the developer.

You don't have a right to control what companies do. You only have a license to use what you bought. What you bought was Avenger 1.x and whatever it supports is where your rights belong. You have absolutely no legal nor moral right to demand anything else.

Goddamn narcissism is f**king rampantly out of control. Please, TRY to BE a BETTER PERSON.. for our damn planets sake.

[noiseboyuk]

I assume you at least see the factory 2 presets for the synth itself?
rsp

Yes, and all fixed. If you manually download the Factory 2 expansion from the website it looks like it doesn't install the FX presets. I deleted my manually downloaded file, and reinstalled via Vman - everything showing up now.

[zvenx]

Hmmm but that is how I did it.. I manually downloaded the installer for mac and pc, the factory 2 bank and for good measure the vmanager for mac and pc and installed all manually.
rsp

[msvs]

This is not a standard procedure and it is the same as if the old version of Windows could not open new programs and the user had to buy a new version of the operating system every time.

Complete bollocks. In fact, this DOES happen. New software isn't backwards compatible indefinitely, nor does it have to be. It's nice if it is but that's completely up to the developer.

You don't have a right to control what companies do. You only have a license to use what you bought. What you bought was Avenger 1.x and whatever it supports is where your rights belong. You have absolutely no legal nor moral right to demand anything else.

Goddamn narcissism is f**king rampantly out of control. Please, TRY to BE a BETTER PERSON.. for our damn planets sake.

thank you, you said that, what I cant say

[msvs]

Hmmm but that is how I did it.. I manually downloaded the installer for mac and pc, the factory 2 bank and for good measure the vmanager for mac and pc and installed all manually.
rsp

I had this issue 3x already today. Q4ntum folders were empty. This can happen when you have it on external space and its write protected somehow, or when if dont import the Factory 2 correctly (via drag and drop into the GUI or Syspage/import content. The best thing is just to use VMAN, since then its just 1 click, but since the servers still have some problems, user tend to install it manually.

[zvenx]

Got ya... I downloaded manually and then use the Syspage import... (I don't think I even knew or remembered you could drag) and indeed mine is on an external.
Anyway it worked fine for me.
rsp

[wone2]

This is not a standard procedure and it is the same as if the old version of Windows could not open new programs and the user had to buy a new version of the operating system every time.

Complete bollocks. In fact, this DOES happen. New software isn't backwards compatible indefinitely, nor does it have to be. It's nice if it is but that's completely up to the developer.

You don't have a right to control what companies do. You only have a license to use what you bought. What you bought was Avenger 1.x and whatever it supports is where your rights belong. You have absolutely no legal nor moral right to demand anything else.

Goddamn narcissism is f**king rampantly out of control. Please, TRY to BE a BETTER PERSON.. for our damn planets sake.

thank you, you said that, what I cant say

That you are not really ashamed to treat users like this. So in a year, version 3 will be and will all of them upgrade their software to the new version and so every year? I paid for the software and most of all I bought music banks. Unfortunately, I cannot buy new banks because I am pushing to (even if I do not want to use new features but I want new music banks) had to buy software again. In my opinion, it is a scam and I have not met it anywhere. The FL studio has a lifetime license and if I want some new plugins, I will buy them, but I can still open all the new third -party plugins in the old version. With Avenger, I am only built in the situation that I just no longer have a chance to use the new sounds. That a few faithful knocks on your shoulder and tells you how you did it well and that it is actually great, that they can be happy to throw out the old version of the program and spend your euro on basically the same thing with some improvements does not mean that It is really the right procedure and that there are no more of those you have upset and lost by this actions. I will not pay the upgrade, I will not buy other music banks and the only one who will lose you Manueli. And there will be enough of us.

[wone2]

A year ago I bought a full version of Avenger and now I should upgrade to version 2.0 so I can buy new music banks, which unfortunately work only for the new version of Avenger. I consider this to be a fraudulent behavior on users. I will write a complaint at the European Consumer Center, because I will not pay another 100 euros just to buy other music banks. All it's a fraud from the Vengeance Sound team

lol? wtf?
im sure you can use Version 1 still of course for new music packs which use the new functions etc. of Avenger 2 it wont be possible. first post from new user

All new music banks are already created only for Avenger 2, so the user is pushed to have to buy new software for which he has already paid. If you don't understand what I want to say, you're stiff. And yes, I'm new here because I'm looking for information on the Internet and similarly dissatisfied users to write a lawsuit. This is not a standard procedure and it is the same as if the old version of Windows could not open new programs and the user had to buy a new version of the operating system every time.

It is expected that the new packs use the features of the latest version. So what is your suggestion? They keep releasing expansions for older version or not use any of the new features when doing an expansion? Or get the update for free?

The manufacturer should benefit from content, ie music banks and not that other banks will not be compatible with previous software. If you don't find it logical, it seems logical to me. But to follow the fact that my users basically without buying new software will close the way to new music banks is crap worthy of inexperienced merchant. Upgrade was supposed to be free. But the grimness is just stronger

[SLiC]

No one has to upgrade, V1 (and all its many, many soundpacks) still works just fine and lets be honest, V2 isn't 'that' different, just has a few new bells and whistles, I bet most of us are not even using half of what is in V1!

[DarkS474]

On my account I see the upgrade price being 119 Euros instead of the 99 Euros told before and with the 33% Black Friday discount becomes 79 Euros. But if it was 99 Euros it should have been 66 Euros discounted.
When I saw the 33% Black Friday discount I thought well if that's the case and it's 99 Euros then for 66 Euros I would just buy it.
Unfortunately it is not the case because the price has been set to 119 Euros instead of 99 Euros so even with a 33% discount remains too expensive.
UVI Falcon features LUA scripting and many other things that VPS Avenger 2.0 doesn't have. I won't pay a high fee in advance in the hope that Avenger 3.0 might really fill the gap of features with competitors, a scripting language feature would have been worth the upgrade price but it is not there. So I might think about adding Falcon soon to my library and keep using Avenger 1.8.x license.

[geiger167]

What's the usual time period from first purchase to Vengeance sending details of purchase/downloads etc ?

[DarkS474]

No one has to upgrade, V1 (and all its many, many soundpacks) still works just fine and lets be honest, V2 isn't 'that' different, just has a few new bells and whistles, I bet most of us are not even using half of what is in V1!

Exactly.
They are asking too much for too little.
The new features are nice but I can achieve the same with Avenger 1.8.x and other VST plugins I already bought and I am using.
UVI Falcon 3 most interesting feature for me is the LUA scripting but still has many other features VPS Avenger is lacking. Then I got Avenger because it does have some nice features I like indeed but 1.8.x is enough already for that. I would have got 2.0 for a small upgrade fee but that is not the case so maybe I will upgrade to 3.0 whenever that happens depending on features if I have to pay a high fee.