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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:05 pm

jancivil wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:37 am
harryupbabble wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:54 pm just the other day, i was informed that i prolifically deprive myself
of oxygen, like dennis hopper in that movie
oh wait i'm not even sure about that
it may be the other way around

"Frank Booth" was getting off on oxygen, not depriving himself.

Actually, it's not known what it is that he inhales. Dunno if David Lynch ever revealed it.

Probably up to interpretation like most stuff in his films.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:22 pm

You know you've been hopelessly G.A.S.ed when ... you renew your WUP.

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:27 pm

i've never been a victim of gas, i'm a tightwad cheapo on a tight budget

but i have to make a correction
the last gear i bought is not the zoom r16 audio recorder/mixer

my last purchase was the focusrite solo
i do use that, unlike the zoom r16

also, i'm no dennis hopper
my drug of choice is aspirin, it's cheap, easy to get
it seems to help my speed scrabble
i want to take it everyday even if i rarely get headaches
but i don't, i don't want to get ulcer

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:49 pm

You should put that to music.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:04 pm

chk071 wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:05 pm
jancivil wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:37 am
harryupbabble wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:54 pm just the other day, i was informed that i prolifically deprive myself
of oxygen, like dennis hopper in that movie
oh wait i'm not even sure about that
it may be the other way around

"Frank Booth" was getting off on oxygen, not depriving himself.
Actually, it's not known what it is that he inhales. Dunno if David Lynch ever revealed it.

Probably up to interpretation like most stuff in his films.

Long ago, I read an interview with Dennis Hopper. IIRC it was PCP, and he had suggested it.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:13 pm

harryupbabble wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:01 pm dennis hopper, a veteran of drug use, suggested that
frank booth should be inhaling amyl nitrate instead

I stand corrected (probably).

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:15 pm

dennis hopper is proof that taking all sorts of drugs won't kill you?

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:25 pm

harryupbabble wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:15 pm dennis hopper is proof that taking all sorts of drugs won't kill you?

- some people get away with experimenting, the way Hopper did
- most addicts are deeply traumatized people, looking to make life bearable
- some people are genetically more inclined to become addicted
- most addicts regret having started using in the first place, many found themselves addicted before they even realized the danger
- most harm is usually caused by prohibition itself; still, some drugs are terribly unhealthy (even untainted)
- what doesn't kill you can still make you miserable; physical addiction seems to make people vulnerable to relapsing (whereas psychological addiction can be overcome by introspection and mindfulness, IMHO)

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:34 pm

The dichotomy between 'physical' and psychological' is artificial, as everything is based in biology.
People who have issues with depression, isolation, trauma, can easily relapse on something like weed, which is, allegedly, 'only' 'psychologically dependence-forming.' Although, I've seen a couple of studies mention that cannabis withdrawal syndrome can be more severe in the age of hyped THC levels and edibles.

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:38 pm

i may be wrong but if you are rich, you are less likely to die from overdose? you have people around you, taking care of you?

except prince, he died alone in an elevator,
after he overdosed on something that an assassin gave him,
and after the assaasin has left the elevator,
prince died slowly thinking about not playing pingpong anymore?

hay man, no one really knows?
have you seen that movie that starred michael fassbender?

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:47 pm

on the other hand it can t get more contrived than movies
i always tell one of my bros "dude, only in movies can bruce lee beat muhammad ali"

"bruce lee spent so much time making movies while muhammad ali spent so much time beating up real-life mofos"

The Noodlist · Post by **The Noodlist** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:57 pm

Aloysius wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:22 pm You know you've been hopelessly G.A.S.ed when ... you renew your WUP.

Get your money back in a coupon, meh. $50 minimum spend..
I WUP'ED Bass Rider, I got a $9 coupon. Straight after I WUP'ED Musicians 2 and the $9 coupon became $10.

I was considering a few NX plugins, I'll opt for Acustica Sienna while it's on sale.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:41 pm

I want a Surfytrem to go with my Surfybear. The Missus said: „you have a birthday coming up!“
Me: „IN MAYYYY!!!“

What's the fun of instant gratification, anyway?

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pm

Bombadil wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:34 pm The dichotomy between 'physical' and psychological' is artificial, as everything is based in biology.
People who have issues with depression, isolation, trauma, can easily relapse on something like weed, which is, allegedly, 'only' 'psychologically dependence-forming.' Although, I've seen a couple of studies mention that cannabis withdrawal syndrome can be more severe in the age of hyped THC levels and edibles.

I disagree.

I used to be addicted to tobacco. I relapsed several times: 1 puff is all it took.

That is a lasting effect (while psychological addiction can be overcome 100%).
- Overcoming physical addiction doesn't undo it.
- Overcoming psychological addiction doesn't undo physical addiction either - but it takes away the desire for "just 1 puff". So, while relapsing would immediately reinstate my physical addiction, I'm not tempted anymore. At all.

Not to mention the fact that many addicts are stuck in a loop, due to physical withdrawal.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:36 pm

cptgone wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pm
Bombadil wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:34 pm The dichotomy between 'physical' and psychological' is artificial, as everything is based in biology.
People who have issues with depression, isolation, trauma, can easily relapse on something like weed, which is, allegedly, 'only' 'psychologically dependence-forming.' Although, I've seen a couple of studies mention that cannabis withdrawal syndrome can be more severe in the age of hyped THC levels and edibles.
I disagree.

I used to be addicted to tobacco. I relapsed several times: 1 puff is all it took.

That is a lasting effect (while psychological addiction can be overcome 100%).
- Overcoming physical addiction doesn't undo it.
- Overcoming psychological addiction doesn't undo physical addiction either - but it takes away the desire for "just 1 puff". So, while relapsing would immediately reinstate my physical addiction, I'm not tempted anymore. At all.

Not to mention the fact that many addicts are stuck in a loop, due to physical withdrawal.

Yup. Nicotine is, allegedly, more addictive than heroin. However, just because one gets a craving (psychological) doesn't mean that it isn't mediated by external contingencies, biology, and personal history. The psychological is intrinsically linked to the biological. How did I respond to this stressor in the past? With a ciggie. So, of course that is going to linger for a long time. I quit smoking many times in my life. Been almost 22 years without one, now. Our nicotine R+ schedules have been properly extinguished.