VPS Avenger 2.4 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

[msvs]

I really want an expansion that dives into all the new sound design potential for more than EDM.

there is no (maybe will never be) an expansion which dives deeper into sound design and the new features than Generative 1. It isnt EDM also.
A Cinematic Loops 2 will be released in December btw

[Teksonik]

Yes, it has its bugs, for some reason uknown to me I have now double the original "factory" expansion and it cannot be removed, but these will be gone sooner or later, and just imagine what comes next.

had this yesterday with another customer also. He had the Factory 1 files twice. he deleted one and it was fixed...
Maybe both are named slightly different, so a duplicate is possible. Please check that Avenger/Expansions folder only holds one Factory1 and one Factory2.avxp file

just delete one or move it to another temporary location on your hd if you dont want to delete.
then restart daw/plugin

I also have the same issue on my studio system with duplicate "Factory" entries in AV2's browser.

However I can not delete either one of them. The "Delete Expansion" option is greyed out even if the DAW is run as an admin.

In Windows explorer there is only one set of Factory samples. The files are not duplicated anywhere and I've looked all over the hard drive. There is only one Factory expansion (plus the Factory 2 expansion) so there is not a extra one to delete.

On this system there is only one Factory icon showing in AV2's browser. The only difference is I have not installed the Factory 2 content on this system yet.

It's not a huge deal and I'm having too much fun with AV2 to spend much time solving this issue now but the main problem is that entries in the Samples, Wavetables, etc sections of the browser are duplicated making browsing them less efficient.

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EDIT: Hey thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.....

Anyway I found the solution. There is a folder called "Factory" and also an .avxp2 file called Factory. I think the folder was left over from an older installation.

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I moved that factory folder out of the Avenger data folder and everything is working fine now. No more duplicate entry in AV2's browser.

So if anyone else has this issue (there have been at least three of us now) then that appears to be the solution. Don't delete the .avxp2 file, move the folder.

[searlstudio]

Is there a way to stop Avenger from voice-stealing while using the sustain pedal (CC64)?

For example, if I have a pad sound and I play the same note repeatedly without cc64, multiple voices of polyphony are used (good).

However, if I play the same note repeatedly while using the sustain pedal, Avenger re-uses the same voice. It's also represented in Avenger's polyphony meter. Repeated playing one note with cc64 engaged uses only one voice. Without cc64 and a long release engages multiple voices.

Is there a way to change that cc64 voice-stealing behavior in Avenger?
Thnx

[noiseboyuk]

I really want an expansion that dives into all the new sound design potential for more than EDM.

there is no (maybe will never be) an expansion which dives deeper into sound design and the new features than Generative 1. It isnt EDM also.
A Cinematic Loops 2 will be released in December btw

I think that Bartek video felt like we were in familiar sonic territory....



...but to be fair as I went through it there is a fair amount of variety, but pretty much all with randomised ARPs and melodies. Which is clever and all (and I did like the rhythmic generation), but I guess I'm looking for playable soundscapes, pads, leads, basses etc, so not so much loops either tbh. In general the more baked-in melodic and harmonic content there is, the less useful I find it. I even like my arps single note and playable on the keys.

Other customers, clearly, are available...

[Caine123]

I really want an expansion that dives into all the new sound design potential for more than EDM.

there is no (maybe will never be) an expansion which dives deeper into sound design and the new features than Generative 1. It isnt EDM also.
A Cinematic Loops 2 will be released in December btw

I think that Bartek video felt like we were in familiar sonic territory....



...but to be fair as I went through it there is a fair amount of variety, but pretty much all with randomised ARPs and melodies. Which is clever and all (and I did like the rhythmic generation), but I guess I'm looking for playable soundscapes, pads, leads, basses etc, so not so much loops either tbh. In general the more baked-in melodic and harmonic content there is, the less useful I find it. I even like my arps single note and playable on the keys.

Other customers, clearly, are available...

there are some older xps like Atmospherica, Doomstep and some others which include more atmospheric elements. oh and cinematic , i dunno the names atm , but yeah. these can be easily used and mangled with your own stuff. but yeah hope there will be more dedicated Atmospherical/ambient stuff.

[pepelogu]

I guess I was expecting more new kinds of sounds and styles in v2 that uses the frankly awesome new features. Not just more of the same edm/euro-trance.

[Stan Navi]

I wasn't impressed with factory library 2. It is nice, but not that usable. I very liked what i heard from Bartek's Generative 1 video. But most exciting when you start making sounds from scratch. There is so many possibilities and high quality features and FX, that you start getting eargasm immediately after few tweaks.

[noiseboyuk]

I wasn't impressed with factory library 2. It is nice, but not that usable. I very liked what i heard from Bartek's Generative 1 video. But most exciting when you start making sounds from scratch. There is so many possibilities and high quality features and FX, that you start getting eargasm immediately after few tweaks.

Agree.

Maybe Avenger 2 will give a real boost to the 3rd party patch scene, less EDM-focused and more conventionally playable.

[DCrown]

No other synth offers so many things to create your own sounds, so I don't care about the xps or new factory sounds, they are edm oriented, what else did you expect from Martin?
Maybe Avenger 3 will go a new direction after it will have been sold to whomever

[zvenx]

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...but to be fair as I went through it there is a fair amount of variety, but pretty much all with randomised ARPs and melodies. Which is clever and all (and I did like the rhythmic generation), but I guess I'm looking for playable soundscapes, pads, leads, basses etc, so not so much loops either tbh. In general the more baked-in melodic and harmonic content there is, the less useful I find it. I even like my arps single note and playable on the keys.

Other customers, clearly, are available...

Yeah i am more or less with Guy here.

What i want is another BigTones library.
rsp

[Jac459]

........
...but to be fair as I went through it there is a fair amount of variety, but pretty much all with randomised ARPs and melodies. Which is clever and all (and I did like the rhythmic generation), but I guess I'm looking for playable soundscapes, pads, leads, basses etc, so not so much loops either tbh. In general the more baked-in melodic and harmonic content there is, the less useful I find it. I even like my arps single note and playable on the keys.

Other customers, clearly, are available...

Yeah i am with Guy here.
rsp

I am also ok with simpler sounds and not whole compositions. But on another hand it can be quite nice to have elaborated "sequences" to put in perspective each sound. After you just have to deconstruct (it is a bit painful but manageable) to get the individual sounds you like.

[msvs]

No other synth offers so many things to create your own sounds, so I don't care about the xps or new factory sounds, they are edm oriented, what else did you expect from Martin?
Maybe Avenger 3 will go a new direction after it will have been sold to whomever

I dont know what to expect from this "Martin". I ask him when I see him... who is he?

regarding me: I think I did far more cinematic stuff than EDM stuff in the last 10 years.

[msvs]

I wasn't impressed with factory library 2. It is nice, but not that usable. I very liked what i heard from Bartek's Generative 1 video. But most exciting when you start making sounds from scratch. There is so many possibilities and high quality features and FX, that you start getting eargasm immediately after few tweaks.

Agree.

Maybe Avenger 2 will give a real boost to the 3rd party patch scene, less EDM-focused and more conventionally playable.

I know, that many here tend to like non EDM sounds. Bu nearly everything you hear in radio etc is kind of ElectronicDanceMusic... and regarding sales, 90% of our customers want to buy EDM stuff. But since we do what we like to do, and not what we "must" to earn money, Avengers library has as many non-EDM things as EDM things. This includes Atmospheric and Dystopian stuff, Chillout Lounge, Chiptunes stuff, real instruments (piano, guitars!), many Cinematic XPs, Sound Effects, Italo Disco and Vintage (is that EDM? Maybe...). So plenty to chose from.

[DCrown]

No other synth offers so many things to create your own sounds, so I don't care about the xps or new factory sounds, they are edm oriented, what else did you expect from Martin?
Maybe Avenger 3 will go a new direction after it will have been sold to whomever

I dont know what to expect from this "Martin". I ask him when I see him... who is he?

regarding me: I think I did far more cinematic stuff than EDM stuff in the last 10 years.

Sorry, Manuel not Martin!
Your synth is great to create own sounds for all kind of genres and xps are great for creating sounds, too.
You know that when people say edm they include house, techno and many more, even if it might not be correct, but you just don't want to write every single genre or subgenre and just call it edm.

[zerocrossing]

seems like every time I hear someone mention an Apple product on here it is because something is broken software wise.

Sometimes I wonder what the plugin world would be like if all the development hours spent on making things compatible for a constantly changing Apple architecture went to just developing software.