Is there a way to send midi CC to a plugin without a hardware controller?
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- KVRAF
- 4340 posts since 8 Mar, 2005
In logic is there a way to send midi CC to a plugin without requiring external hardware? I'd like to automate a param with midi LFO but there doesn't seem to be a way to map a control to a CC without learning external midi.
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- KVRAF
- 35675 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Can you specify what that means? I don't understand it.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4340 posts since 8 Mar, 2005
Just like how synths have LFOs to automate their internal params, you can automate midi params using LFOs in logic. However, they need to be mapped to output some CC. The problem is, if I try to map a midi CC to a plugin param in logic, it opens a window where it's waiting to learn from midi input.
I don't have a midi input, so I'd like to specify manually the midi CC which I want the param to be mapped to.
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- KVRAF
- 7098 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Dont know Logic or if you are having a LFO-generator there to use for midi CC?
- why go by midi CC, I mean
What is common in many daws is to create like a sine curve in an automation lane, that can be tied to a parameter in a plugin.
- many other waveforms too, for this purpose
Look for regular automation maybe...no intermediate carrier like CC is needed....
- why go by midi CC, I mean
What is common in many daws is to create like a sine curve in an automation lane, that can be tied to a parameter in a plugin.
- many other waveforms too, for this purpose
Look for regular automation maybe...no intermediate carrier like CC is needed....
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4340 posts since 8 Mar, 2005
I know but I want to audition stuff realtime. I worked around this by wrapping the plugin in unify, which supports exactly the thing I was asking for.
Such a shame it's a CPU hog, or I'd use it a lot more than I do currently.
Such a shame it's a CPU hog, or I'd use it a lot more than I do currently.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I'd be amazed if you couldn't just open up a lane for CC and just have it send from the lane. I never actually used Logic to compose, I had Logic 8, years ago (controller lanes then you had to deal with one at a time, primary reason for not doing any composing in it. I feel sure they've changed this much.). I generally write CC in Cubase Key Editor (piano roll) rather than tactile control, as I'm going to be editing that anyway. Nothing has to be "learned", I have an instrument set to CC1 for LFO depth, CC9 for LFO rate if there's LFO used, across the board. EG: Kontakt MIDI Automation in the sidebar now called Rack View in K7.7, drag the numbered entry to the parameter and drop that on it (w. consistent mapping elsewhere).
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- KVRAF
- 7098 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Piz Midi plugins might be a solution(20 different or so)
- it also has a simple lfo called midiSimpleLfo
- these can be configured to identify as synth or effect depending on how Logic works
- don't know if you can stack synths in Logic, otherwise just let midi out from this go to the plugin you want to control
Available both for mac and pc.
From manual for all Piz plugins
- waveforms
- CC out, what CC it is to send
- channel out
- various sync options
- various trigger options to start on a note etc
- amplitude
So you can have it free running and just adjust amplitude and frequency on a knob.
Here a link to download the plugins(free stuff)
https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads
- it also has a simple lfo called midiSimpleLfo
- these can be configured to identify as synth or effect depending on how Logic works
- don't know if you can stack synths in Logic, otherwise just let midi out from this go to the plugin you want to control
Available both for mac and pc.
From manual for all Piz plugins
- waveforms
- CC out, what CC it is to send
- channel out
- various sync options
- various trigger options to start on a note etc
- amplitude
So you can have it free running and just adjust amplitude and frequency on a knob.
Here a link to download the plugins(free stuff)
https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
No reason at all to introduce a third-party plugin to perform the basic function.
"You can create and edit automation data directly in the Piano Roll Editor."
from this page:
automation midi-area-in-the-piano roll-editor
One way to do this without hardware is to manipulate an active parameter in a soft instrument while recording. With Logic set to read and write, it'll know the hard-wired CC or other control and write it onto a lane. It's not really different than I do in Cubase other than specific GUI factors. And there is a step editor way to do it (I know nothing of such in Cubase). Google is your friend here as is RTFM.
"You can create and edit automation data directly in the Piano Roll Editor."
from this page:
automation midi-area-in-the-piano roll-editor
One way to do this without hardware is to manipulate an active parameter in a soft instrument while recording. With Logic set to read and write, it'll know the hard-wired CC or other control and write it onto a lane. It's not really different than I do in Cubase other than specific GUI factors. And there is a step editor way to do it (I know nothing of such in Cubase). Google is your friend here as is RTFM.