Ableton 12 - Generative MIDI, Multiband Distortion and more
- KVRian
- 873 posts since 9 Jun, 2020
That does look good. Can’t remember - do we have a M4L devices thread anywhere?
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
If we do we probably need a new for this new generation of MAX devices!Double Tap wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:48 amThat does look good. Can’t remember - do we have a M4L devices thread anywhere?
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
- KVRist
- 283 posts since 1 Nov, 2008
As a matter of fact, we basically do now! viewtopic.php?t=571827SLiC wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:20 amIf we do we probably need a new for this new generation of MAX devices!Double Tap wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 9:48 amThat does look good. Can’t remember - do we have a M4L devices thread anywhere?
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Worth watching, lost of new stuff hadn't read about.
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- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
It won’t improve the quality of your life.
- KVRAF
- 1551 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
almost game of the year ... the options text still works, device slots can also be turned on, and it's just as crappy as before, incomprehensible why it can't be done properly
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Just think…xbitz wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:50 pm almost game of the year ... the options text still works, device slots can also be turned on, and it's just as crappy as before, incomprehensible why it can't be done properly
There are many instances when in Live you are using Groups/Racks.
That requires a different approach. Even BW can’t deal with Groups in the mixer view (unless it changed in the 5.1).
It needs an expandable slot for it…. Hard to see it coming anytime soon.
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- KVRian
- 543 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
Yeah, I doubt it’ll ever come, because it just doesn’t make sense. And even if Ableton somehow manages to develop some sort of graphical representation of the signal flow for quick access, the jury’s still out on the question whether it’s really faster or just marginally so.liquidsound wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:05 pmJust think…xbitz wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:50 pm almost game of the year ... the options text still works, device slots can also be turned on, and it's just as crappy as before, incomprehensible why it can't be done properly
There are many instances when in Live you are using Groups/Racks.
That requires a different approach. Even BW can’t deal with Groups in the mixer view (unless it changed in the 5.1).
It needs an expandable slot for it…. Hard to see it coming anytime soon.
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- KVRian
- 543 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
Still waiting for beta access, btw. Still outraged. 
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
If you click on 'applicant' 127 times it emails you the beta link
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
I think this would have been the coup de grâce for Bitwig, the small mixer on the arranger side can be configured independently, and it wouldn't even be a disturbance if it wasn't therenanostream wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:46 pmYeah, I doubt it’ll ever come, because it just doesn’t make sense. And even if Ableton somehow manages to develop some sort of graphical representation of the signal flow for quick access, the jury’s still out on the question whether it’s really faster or just marginally so.liquidsound wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:05 pmJust think…xbitz wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:50 pm almost game of the year ... the options text still works, device slots can also be turned on, and it's just as crappy as before, incomprehensible why it can't be done properly
There are many instances when in Live you are using Groups/Racks.
That requires a different approach. Even BW can’t deal with Groups in the mixer view (unless it changed in the 5.1).
It needs an expandable slot for it…. Hard to see it coming anytime soon.

Otherwise, it's shaping up like a hunchbacked kid under a press*, this will be good
* direct translation of a Hungarian saying
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