Charlatan³ Free VA synth updated to v3.3.2 (Win/Linux)

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It would be great if Charlatan 3 would look for the presets in the installation directory under /presets by default enabling a portable installation.

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Akurra wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:34 pm It would be great if Charlatan 3 would look for the presets in the installation directory under /presets by default enabling a portable installation.
& reading links to other folders to allow alternative storage paths.

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bug
Initialise charlatan
Right click ratio and choose a mod source for osc 1, result : not working
It only works when drag-dropping mod source to destination .
Now drag drop modulation source for osc 1 , it works .
Delete the mod source , now drag drop a source to any osc , it will be applied to the other osc's
Def.something fishy going one
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I narrowed it down
Initialise charlatan
Drag drop mod source to osc 1B ( b=so the second waveform of osc 1 , A being the first ) , mod is confirmed by red line under ratio of osc 1B
Delete the source (x button )
Now drag drop mod source to osc 1A , result :mod is also applied to 1B
Host :renoise
O.S. win 10
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:34 pm bug
Initialise charlatan
Right click ratio and choose a mod source for osc 1, result : not working
(...)
It's not really a bug, but the functioning of pitch/phase modulation might not be obvious at first. The modulation is only applied to those oscs that have the "S" icon next to the ratio highlighted. If you add a mod source via the dropdown, you need to enable it manually. If you drag a source onto the ratio field, it gets enabled automatically. I will think about whether the workflow can be improved here.

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Maybe add the "S" to the modulation panel, as a reminder/shortcut, next to the close button?

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hi all - can someone confirm the sustain pedal not working on charlatan (beta 30b3)?
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brok landers
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latest version shows under effect when using vst3shell as wrapper.

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brok landers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:32 am hi all - can someone confirm the sustain pedal not working on charlatan (beta 30b3)?
can disconfirm. Don't own a pedal but reacontrolmidi cc64 appears to be doing something.

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hlmst wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:27 pm
brok landers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:32 am hi all - can someone confirm the sustain pedal not working on charlatan (beta 30b3)?
can disconfirm. Don't own a pedal but reacontrolmidi cc64 appears to be doing something.
Hmmm... Strange. Here my pedal works on all my vsti's in Studio One 6 as well as in Bitwig - except in charlatan. Thanks anyway. 🤷‍♂️
regards,
brok landers
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brok landers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:32 am hi all - can someone confirm the sustain pedal not working on charlatan (beta 30b3)?
Known bug (VST3 only)
viewtopic.php?p=8785121#p8785121

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karrikuh wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:44 pm
brok landers wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:32 am hi all - can someone confirm the sustain pedal not working on charlatan (beta 30b3)?
Known bug (VST3 only)⁸
viewtopic.php?p=8785121#p8785121
Ah ok. Thanks. 👍
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

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Any chance the envelope attack could be made a touch less neutered? As it is, it lacks a proper click even with the fastest curve.

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hlmst wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:33 am Any chance the envelope attack could be made a touch less neutered? As it is, it lacks a proper click even with the fastest curve.
I'm aware of this. Unfortunately, there is a limit on how fast a modulation destination (such as volume) can react to changes of the envelope generator due to the way modulation signals are processed. Currently, modulation signals are generated at one 16th of the audio samplerate. As a consequence, an instant attack stage will result in a ramp of 16 samples or ~0.4ms @ 44.1kHz. While this should be easily fast enough in the majority of use cases, it does make it hard to achive sounds where a bright, clicky attack is desired, like 808-style kick drums. There are however some tricks that can help to get you mostly there:

- Engage oversampling and/or increase host samplerate. These will increase the modulation processing rate and hence sharpen the transients.
- Make sure that the oscillator start phase is set so that the oscillator signal starts at maximum amplitude. E.g., for a sine wave, choose 90°.
- The attack click can be emphasized by activating saturation in the master FX section and quickly increasing the gain during attack phase using a very short envelope.

Anyway, I'm thinking of doubling the modulation processing rate in the final 3.0 release. Initial measurements have shown a ~10% increase in CPU load, which may be affordable.

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Some synths have a special button for adding punch to the envelopes, e.g. Waves Element I think.

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