Ploki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pm Plugins that also do this:
Wavesfactory Spectre (it's actually reverse of that)
Tone Projects Kelvin (Tone shaping pre faders are for emphasis)
Tone Projects Michelangelo (You can drive the whole EQ and then adjust per-band drive controls for emphasis without even EQing, it also has a very nice distortion to begin with)
Softube Overstayer also really pretty
Melda something, idk which. some have it
this is so incredibly useful control to have i wish every saturator had it
Clean crisp distortion plugins
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I still like Klanghelms SSDR, especially the Digital mode for this kind of sound (as opposed to the TUBE, Fuzz algos etc)
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If you have reaktor I made a distortion based on chebbyshev polynomials (long time ago ), can't get any cleaner then that and it sounds awesome
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... show/7733/
There are alos some free chebbyshave shapers (airwindows , hornet etc..)

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... show/7733/
There are alos some free chebbyshave shapers (airwindows , hornet etc..)

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- KVRist
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Tupe is sounding very nice! Thanks guys, crazy GUI. Been demoing Michelangelo also and will continue to. Plug-ins have come a long wayhey212 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:27 pmPloki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pm Plugins that also do this:
Wavesfactory Spectre (it's actually reverse of that)
Tone Projects Kelvin (Tone shaping pre faders are for emphasis)
Tone Projects Michelangelo (You can drive the whole EQ and then adjust per-band drive controls for emphasis without even EQing, it also has a very nice distortion to begin with)
Softube Overstayer also really pretty
Melda something, idk which. some have it
this is so incredibly useful control to have i wish every saturator had it! Every saturation plugin should do this. Personally I think Tupe has implemented it best, but Kelvin and Michelangelo are amazing and have a form of it.
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- KVRist
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Interesting… I might give Reaktor a demo, am in the process of down sizing my modular so would be fun to explore ITBgentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:52 pm If you have reaktor I made a distortion based on chebbyshev polynomials (long time ago ), can't get any cleaner then that and it sounds awesome
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... show/7733/
There are alos some free chebbyshave shapers (airwindows , hornet etc..)
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NO , kelvin uses analogue modelling , chebbyshev polynomials is not that , it's just another method to bring out 2,3 4 etc harmonicsPloki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:55 pm Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
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How do you analog-model only 2nd and 3rd harmonic? Because Kelvin's "only 2nd" algo is -extremely- cleangentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:34 pmNO , kelvin uses analogue modelling , chebbyshev polynomials is not that , it's just another method to bring out 2,3 4 etc harmonicsPloki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:55 pm Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
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maybe he did use chebby for the clean second-third harm ,I meant all the rest is most def. ana modelling-Ploki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:49 pmHow do you analog-model only 2nd and 3rd harmonic? Because Kelvin's "only 2nd" algo is -extremely- cleangentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:34 pmNO , kelvin uses analogue modelling , chebbyshev polynomials is not that , it's just another method to bring out 2,3 4 etc harmonicsPloki wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:55 pm Oh soo this is what Kelvin uses to for the "2nd" and "3rd" order algos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
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- KVRAF
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maybe he did use chebby for the clean second-third harm ,I meant all the rest is most def. ana modelling-gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:02 pm How do you analog-model only 2nd and 3rd harmonic? Because Kelvin's "only 2nd" algo is -extremely- clean
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Yes, pre- and de-emphasis filtering is so useful in saturation to prevent oversaturation. I wonder why there are still so many saturation plugins being released without this basic feature.Ploki wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:13 pmPlugins that also do this:hey212 wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:26 pmGhz Tupe is literally made for this. There is a section of the controls called "Emphasis" that gives you precise control over which parts of the frequency range you want to protect from over saturating, and to what degree. It's also just incredibly flexible and organic sounding saturation. Can't recommend it highly enough. https://manuals.goodhertz.com/3.7/tupe/ ... asisFilter
Wavesfactory Spectre (it's actually reverse of that)
Tone Projects Kelvin (Tone shaping pre faders are for emphasis)
Tone Projects Michelangelo (You can drive the whole EQ and then adjust per-band drive controls for emphasis without even EQing, it also has a very nice distortion to begin with)
Softube Overstayer also really pretty
Melda something, idk which. some have it
this is so incredibly useful control to have i wish every saturator had it
Luckily it's easy to set emphasis filtering up manually, by placing one EQ instance before the saturator and one after and then compensating with the second EQ for the emphasis settings you do on the first EQ.
Dan Worrall even made an entire video about this subject:
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Awesome video! Love Worrall but hadn't seen that one yet.BackInCheck wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:11 pm Yes, pre- and de-emphasis filtering is so useful in saturation to prevent oversaturation. I wonder why there are still so many saturation plugins being released without this basic feature.
Luckily it's easy to set emphasis filtering up manually, by placing one EQ instance before the saturator and one after and then compensating with the second EQ for the emphasis settings you do on the first EQ.
Dan Worrall even made an entire video about this subject:
Btw, if anyone is into 500 series gear, we're working on a hardware saturator with emphasis eq controls over here: https://gearspace.com/board/new-product ... arter.html
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While we're talking hardware, I designed and built a Eurorack emphasis/saturator module, have been really happy with it.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-emphasis
Just remembered I never finished the blog writeup
In the box I mostly use Spectre for this sort of thing, but do also have some REAPER fx chains saved for the stuff Dan Worral showed. I guess those could now be fx containers to keep the mixer view a bit tidier.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-emphasis
Just remembered I never finished the blog writeup
In the box I mostly use Spectre for this sort of thing, but do also have some REAPER fx chains saved for the stuff Dan Worral showed. I guess those could now be fx containers to keep the mixer view a bit tidier.

