Ableton 12 - Generative MIDI, Multiband Distortion and more

[Jolaff]

Anyone else checking their email twice a day for beta access? I'm usually not that interested in betas, but I'm really curious about the new browser. I can't stand any browser in any DAW, so I have high hopes I guess, that this might be the application browser I actually use.

Twice a day ? More like 20 times a day

I'm also very interested in that browser ...I already planned how I'll tag my stuff

[machinesworking]

Anyone else checking their email twice a day for beta access? I'm usually not that interested in betas, but I'm really curious about the new browser. I can't stand any browser in any DAW, so I have high hopes I guess, that this might be the application browser I actually use.

Twice a day ? More like 20 times a day

I'm also very interested in that browser ...I already planned how I'll tag my stuff

I'll admit I've been thinking about Sononym for years now so I went ahead and bought it, it will still be useful since I use other DAWs besides Live, but yeah, twice is probably more like 5+ times a day here. I'm almost ready to beg support since I've been a user since v3 and around 2003.

[GruvSyco]

When I look at the comparison page I am confused.

https://www.ableton.com/en/live/compare-editions/

CV Tools was included in Ableton Live 11 Standard, but is now excluded in version 12???
Can someone verify this?

It says right on the product page Max for Live devices. Max has always been a suite offering but, I think you can buy it for standard though.

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/cv-tools/

[HOTF]

Ned always going deep and exploring new possibilities

[Double Tap]

Huh. Another week goes by with no beta invite.

[qtheerearranger]

i just got beta this morning. idk about this browser. it seemed pog in the videos but i think its dog.. but my browser is buggy which ive already submitted feedback on so maybe its smoother when i can actually set it up without the browser freaking out.

[SLiC]

Huh. Another week goes by with no beta invite.

Yeh, I was hoping I would get an invite today as I have a free weekend (doesn't happen often!) Still, by the time I am in it will be pretty much bug free

[liquidsound]

Ned always going deep and exploring new possibilities

The piano roll stuff is a huge jump for Ableton.
That alone, is worth the upgrade fee for me and on top of it… the rest of the UI workflow changes etc.!

[Double Tap]

Huh. Another week goes by with no beta invite.

Yeh, I was hoping I would get an invite today as I have a free weekend (doesn't happen often!) Still, by the time I am in it will be pretty much bug free

Yeah me too. I might have to do something radical like make some music with what I've already got.

[HOTF]

Huh. Another week goes by with no beta invite.

Yeh, I was hoping I would get an invite today as I have a free weekend (doesn't happen often!) Still, by the time I am in it will be pretty much bug free

Yeah me too. I might have to do something radical like make some music with what I've already got.

wow thats crazy talk now

[qtheerearranger]

okay so i posted kinda angrily and stupidly right after i got beta and was frustrated running into bugs... in a beta lol. sorry.

browser change while its bugged af on beta rn is huge imo. works for me. i can see why some may hate this though. but its not something that makes or breaks a daw to me..

this piano roll though is fire. i think theres going to be a huge learning curve from 11-12 a lot more then usual versions so be prepared imo. ive been using it all day and theres a lot of stuff. i mean this is the best piano roll easily outside of fl studio. i dont use fl studio so i cant say which takes the crown but with all the features in the ableton piano roll im guessing its got stuff fls doesnt.
100% a better piano roll then logic or s1.. logic cats ableton has midi transform features on steroids. yall aint got nothing cool anymore in the piano roll. at least s1 has some modern features but still worse then abletons now.

im not an ableton user so i havent done any serious work just some chords with tonic melodies that follow the chords. so im still just learning basic stuff here (started with live 8 and used it a bit through 10 for collabs but im rusty). but i could see myself switching to ableton with v12 but i need more time to figure out how it works to see if i really like it or not.

[revvy]

beta testing isn’t for everyone, we haven’t all got the right approach

[nanostream]

I just got the email, informing me that Ableton has released … Live 11.3.20b6. Bah, who cares. We want 12! We want 12!

[Karbon L. Forms]

Can someone who also has the beta please tell me how to do the new "split note into arbitrary number of notes via mouse drag" thing on windows?

I've watched videos but these dickheads all have Macs. One said "command-E but keep holding command", translating that to ctrl-E does not work. Yet another said "option-E", translating to ALT-E does not work.

[xbitz]

^^^

MIDI Note Editing Operations
New commands for editing MIDI notes have been added, making it quick and convenient to adjust notes directly in the MIDI Note Editor.

Split divides a note into two or more parts by using either the mouse or computer keyboard.

Split with mouse – Hold [E] and click inside a note at the desired location or drag vertically across it to split it. You can split multiple notes simultaneously in the same way: make a note selection, then click at the desired location in any of the selected notes to split them or drag vertically across the selection to split the notes. To split a note or multiple notes into parts based on the current grid settings, press [CTRL][E] (Win) / [CMD][E] (Mac).

Split with keyboard – If no note is selected, press [CTRL][E] (Win) / [CMD][E] (Mac) to split the note at the insert marker location or at the boundaries of the time selection.

Chop divides selected notes into multiple parts based on the current grid settings or in equal parts, either by using the mouse or computer keyboard.

Chop with mouse – Hold [CTRL][E] (Win) / [ALT][E] (Mac) so that the cursor changes to an arrow and dashed line symbol. Click on a note and drag up to divide the note into equal parts, increasing by one as you drag up. You can hold the [Shift] key together with the shortcut and the number of equal parts will increase by a factor of two as you drag up (note that [Shift] will have no effect if the Computer MIDI Keyboard is switched on). The same operations can be applied to multiple notes simultaneously.

Chop with keyboard – Use the shortcut [CTRL][E] (Win) / [CMD][E] (Mac) to chop notes. While still holding the shortcut keys, you can use the up and down arrow keys to divide notes into equal parts instead of grid steps. The up arrow key will add more divisions, while the down arrow key uses fewer divisions. If you add the [Shift] key, the up and down arrow keys will divide notes by a power of two (note that [Shift] will have no effect if the Computer MIDI Keyboard is switched on).

Join creates a single note from all selected notes that have the same pitch. Any MPE envelope data will be preserved when notes are joined. Use the Join Notes Edit menu command, the context menu option in the MIDI Note Editor, or the shortcut [CTRL][J] (Win) / [CMD][J] (Mac) to join selected notes.

Span (Fit to Time Range) extends selected notes so that their start and end times match the current time selection. For example, if you select multiple notes that have varying end times within a time selection of the first two bars of a four bar clip, using Span will adjust the notes so that they start at 1.1.1 and end at 3.1.1. Use the Fit to Time Range context menu option or the shortcut [CTRL][ALT][J] (Win) / [CMD][ALT][J] (Mac) to span notes.

When using letter-based shortcuts, such as [E] to Split, make sure that the Computer MIDI Keyboard option is switched off so that the keyboard triggers the shortcut and not a MIDI note. Alternatively, you can add the [Shift] key to the shortcut in order to be able to use it while the Computer MIDI Keyboard is on.

https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-12-beta/