Have we now reached "peak plug in"

[jamcat]

AI in music is only going to be a thing if people who are incapable of thought buy in.

That’s already most people, and you have no control over any of them.

[vurt]

as im nearly 50, i find it very hard to care, what people will be listening to, in 100 years.

[lotus2035]

I have 3 plugin emulations of the Roland Space Echo but I know there are at least two more, gotta catch 'em all amirite?

[ghettosynth]

I'm just gonna say it, nobody has yet to come up with a convincing physically modeled fart simulator that am willing to part with cash for, so yes, there's still some room for growth.

[Uncle E]

I have 3 plugin emulations of the Roland Space Echo but I know there are at least two more, gotta catch 'em all amirite?

None of them sound right + there are at least 4 distinctly different flavors of Space Echoes. RE-201 isn't even in the Top 3 most sought after versions.

[Uncle E]

OP, there isn't a VST/AU plugin version of Elektron yet.

[jens]

A better result could have been by singing Thriller by yourself imitating Freddy's singing style, because Freddy wouldn't do this high uhs and ahs like mj or mj's breathing noise sometimes, especially these parts sounded strange. So imagine how Freddy would sing the song, sing and record, doesn't even have to be perfect and then let AI Freddy sing your vocals, I think this way the result would be better. Of course one would need some singing skills, but you wouldn't have to sing as good as Freddy

The challenge I am constantly facing is how to be closest to the ideal version of myself that I am imagining (i.e. singing and performing my songs the way I am imagining them) - so I have no time left for trying to sound like somebody else.

But then again I never liked dressing up in constumes too much either, because that meant looking less like myself.

To each their own though.

[jamcat]

I have 3 plugin emulations of the Roland Space Echo but I know there are at least two more, gotta catch 'em all amirite?

None of them sound right + there are at least 4 distinctly different flavors of Space Echoes. RE-201 isn't even in the Top 3 most sought after versions.

Safari Pedals Fox Echo Chorus is a model of the RE-301.

https://safaripedals.com/products/fox-c ... ntage-vibe

[revvy]

Ah cool, another thread in which folks with loads of plugins speculate that there’s no need for new plugins and that they won’t lead you to make better music. But this time, in the Effects forum.

[jamcat]

I still need models most of the classic BOSS and MXR modulation pedals. But developers insist on modeling only the Tubescream and Big Muff for the 100th time.

[Synthman2000]

AI in music is only going to be a thing if people who are incapable of thought buy in.

That’s already most people, and you have no control over any of them.

I think you are wrong. I have noticed you often making statements as if they are truth yet they are nothing of the sort. You merely express an opinion.

You are not some kind of demi-god who knows the thoughts and goals of other people. You will never know the thoughts and goals of others.

Most people are making music because of what a wonderful experience it is to convey something beyond what words alone can express. Because it is a magical feeling to create, to enjoy, to express.

Don't dump on other people cause you think you know something. You don't have that right, it's what small people do.

You also appear to have a very unhealthy need of Shadenfraude, that's an awful trait to have and you should look into it.

[jancivil]

Don't dismiss the power of human emotion, ego and experience, we are arguably egotistical enough to destroy our own ability to inhabit our planet, that is a deep level of ego right there, wrong yes, but undeniably, incredibly powerful. Accepting AI is going to take over and decimate the value of human endeavor might be more revealing of ones own sensibilities.

Being a tad cold maybe ?

Not as a personal attack but if you accept AI as if it is game over it suggests the link between all human emotions, endeavor and great music must have quite a low value to some.

The universe is not cold hard data, physics and maths. That's our constructs, it may apply and be extremely useful but it is not experienced reality. When we or our loved ones are on our death beds we are not thinking.... This is totally cool... this is just thermodynamic equilibrum and entropy playing out.

Let's not forget cooperation. So much incredible music came about from collaboration.

Most people like a story, far fewer, the result of numbers.

agree completely
and as far as telling an "AI" 'do such and such as performed by Frank Zappa' good luck with that A machine learning enough to extrapolate technical aspects of recording studio production therein might be within the realm of possibility in a foreseeable future, but "AI" as though we are dealing with a viable or genuine musician is majorly overhyped BS that has leapt to a misconstruction of "creating music", reducing to calculations as it must. Confer genuine sentience, before we even start.

as to the OP's 'have we...' there is no we there. I personally have no excuse in terms of being equipped to make what I make, but I remain curious and happened to encounter a few things recently that I can explore and get into new areas of my own thought just from having the specific tools.
Subtract the more/less redundant and some freebies I went ahead and acquired (pretty much redundancy as well), here's maybe one hundred plugins on the drive that justify themselves in the end summation.

This is literally the first "Black Friday" (most of November as per most vendors) I've ever exploited, so I'm not a collector of things that collect virtual dust. (Much.)

[jamcat]

Most people are making music because of what a wonderful experience it is to convey something beyond what words alone can express. Because it is a magical feeling to create, to enjoy, to express.

Most people aren't making music. Maybe you missed my point. It's not the musicians who will be using AI to make music (at least not the real musicians.)

But AI will make musicians themselves obsolete. Just another trade lost to automation.

Don't think that AI is stuck at the level it is at now. It's not. It's growth is already beyond exponential. Just in the past year it has bridged the uncanny valley. And now there is Q*. This is not merely artificial intelligence at this point, but potentially approaching artificial consciousness. Once AI starts writing and optimizing AI (which it may already be doing), it will have reached singularity.

[jamcat]

as far as telling an "AI" 'do such and such as performed by Frank Zappa' good luck with that A machine learning enough to extrapolate technical aspects of recording studio production therein might be within the realm of possibility in a foreseeable future, but "AI" as though we are dealing with a viable or genuine musician is majorly overhyped BS that has leapt to a misconstruction of "creating music", reducing to calculations as it must. Confer genuine sentience, before we even start.

DALL·E can do that with images from natural language. Google's Dream Track is doing exactly what I described. With the exponential growth in the power of AI, how long do you really think it will be before AI is writing better songs than 99% of musicians, and creating convincing performances of them? It already can generate a convincing violin performance out of nothing. It can write lyrics that are less inane and vapid than most pop lyrics being put out there today. And with a mere 12 tones and simple ratio relationships between them to create music, writing music in any style almost certainly takes less language model analysis than writing a coherent sentence in English.

[jens]

But AI will make musicians themselves obsolete..

No, it won't, because it can't - ever.