Relab QuantX (Quantec QRS)

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First of all it sounds lovely, however for the big wide ambient stuff Sonsig by Relab sounds incredibly close with its QRS mode.
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I'm mostly interested in the Freeze function, so hopefully Relab will implement that eventually!
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Sounds great, as does the other one.
I don't feel this one is $75 more valuable to me though.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:49 pm
chagzuki wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:39 pm Relab sure know their reverbs, but they're pricey in the current market, e.g. Sonsig is nice but it lacks features compared to the competition, and there's so much out there to choose from.
SonsigA is $50 on sale and I’d vote for it being the best reverb at that price or lower. At $99 there’s more competition and it hangs right in there but probably not #1.
I demoed Sonsig a while back and seem to remember it was one which had an ‘expensive sound’. What do you think would be its competition / closest to it (and along that line)?

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woodsdenis wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:47 pm First of all it sounds lovely, however for the big wide ambient stuff Sonsig by Relab sounds incredibly close with its QRS mode.
It seems you are slightly confusing things here - I assume with "QRS mode" you refer to the "QRS Render Mode", however these buttons do not affect the actual reverb algos:
RENDER MODE (QRS, 224, Rev-A)

These three render modes apply different
processing accuracy and filtering,
changing the reverb’s overall character.

The QRS mode has a low-fi, desirable
character with a steep high frequency
cutoff.
The actual algos are selected by switching the "size" and according to Relab, the smaller ones are Quantec-inspired (while the bigger ones are 224-inspired) and I hear a vast difference between 6 and 7, while 1-6 and 7-10 respectively, all seem to have a similar character to me.

So I think even with the 224 or Rev-A mode selected you can get a Quantec type of sound when using the Sizes 1-6 while 7-10 are somewhat Lexiconish, regardless of the selected render mode.

It's actually not too diffrent from Valhalla Vintage Verb in that regard, where the algos affect the basic character of the reverb while the three colours switch between three different render-modes.

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I like this reverb a lot, it's also part of the sub so ive not much reason to even try the savant version personally. :shrug:

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macmuse wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:43 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:49 pm
chagzuki wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:39 pm Relab sure know their reverbs, but they're pricey in the current market, e.g. Sonsig is nice but it lacks features compared to the competition, and there's so much out there to choose from.
SonsigA is $50 on sale and I’d vote for it being the best reverb at that price or lower. At $99 there’s more competition and it hangs right in there but probably not #1.
I demoed Sonsig a while back and seem to remember it was one which had an ‘expensive sound’. What do you think would be its competition / closest to it (and along that line)?
Based on list prices:

TaiChi Lite and Acon Verberate 2 on the $100 end

Savant reverbs
Arturia reverbs
Valhalla VV and Room on the $50 end
Baby Audio Crystalline
DDMG MagicVerb
LX480 Essentials
MicroDigital Reverberator

and more

Someone would be in great shape for reverbs with TaiChi Lite and SonsigA and maybe something like the MicroDigital Reveberator for additional character (one of my favorite inexpensive reverbs).

I think TaiChi full on sale is the absolute best $100 all around reverb.

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SonsigA sounds fantastic for special fx sound. But obiously artificial.
The reverb does not preserve the attack of the orginal signal like 480L, Seventh Heaven, Savant Quantum Room or UltraReverb does.

In a way SonsigA is great and more similar to Eventide Blackhole or Valhalla Supermassivefor massive non natural space.

Do the QRS have similar binaural sound like the Savant Quantum Room ?

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jens wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:57 pm
woodsdenis wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:47 pm First of all it sounds lovely, however for the big wide ambient stuff Sonsig by Relab sounds incredibly close with its QRS mode.
It seems you are slightly confusing things here - I assume with "QRS mode" you refer to the "QRS Render Mode", however these buttons do not affect the actual reverb algos:
RENDER MODE (QRS, 224, Rev-A)

These three render modes apply different
processing accuracy and filtering,
changing the reverb’s overall character.

The QRS mode has a low-fi, desirable
character with a steep high frequency
cutoff.
The actual algos are selected by switching the "size" and according to Relab, the smaller ones are Quantec-inspired (while the bigger ones are 224-inspired) and I hear a vast difference between 6 and 7, while 1-6 and 7-10 respectively, all seem to have a similar character to me.

So I think even with the 224 or Rev-A mode selected you can get a Quantec type of sound when using the Sizes 1-6 while 7-10 are somewhat Lexiconish, regardless of the selected render mode.

It's actually not too diffrent from Valhalla Vintage Verb in that regard, where the algos affect the basic character of the reverb while the three colours switch between three different render-modes.
Never said it changed the algos just the sound in relation to the big wide ambient stuff.YMMV
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danatkorg wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:47 am I'm mostly interested in the Freeze function, so hopefully Relab will implement that eventually!
That would be awesome!!! would too like a freeze!
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