KVR Audio

ansolas · Post by **ansolas** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:35 am

Falcon eat thousand of Avenger for breakfast.

and yet it still cant report its introduced latency to the host.

m-ac · Post by **m-ac** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:35 am

Live tracks seem to be where 99% of users have problems with avenger.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:37 am

m-ac wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:35 am Live tracks seem to be where 99% of users have problems with avenger.

Is that right? So those with problems can play many tracks without issue if the live track is not armed?

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:47 am

I just tried 64 instances of Avenger with 1 playing live, and I was surprised to find it added very little extra CPU hit. Everything playing fine in Windows Cubase 13 with ASIOguard on low.

Gam456 · Post by **Gam456** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:52 am

I can run 44 instance (acid preset) on a 2015 old laptop with 32 go on win 10
But it's hell with a 3 osc, unisson, and a reverb. Just a simple chord, 16 notes of polyphony.

Something I also notticed, Avenger is going crasy with cpu and cracks when the plug is open.
Basically i can play 44 instance/track, but not if I open an instance.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:09 pm

Gam456 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:52 am I can run 44 instance (acid preset) on a 2015 old laptop with 32 go on win 10
But it's hell with a 3 osc, unisson, and a reverb. Just a simple chord, 16 notes of polyphony.

Something I also notticed, Avenger is going crasy with cpu and cracks when the plug is open.
Basically i can play 44 instance/track, but not if I open an instance.

Share your patch and I can A/B here

Lbdunequest · Post by **Lbdunequest** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:34 pm

I dont believe Manuel is doing stress tests with Avenger.

I think its the heaviest instrument plugin on the market. Access Virus C might be heavier on CPU but because its much lighter on Ram i can use much more isntances then Avenger 2.

m-ac · Post by **m-ac** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:57 pm

noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:37 am
m-ac wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:35 am Live tracks seem to be where 99% of users have problems with avenger.
Is that right? So those with problems can play many tracks without issue if the live track is not armed?

That's what l've found, as well as others I've chatted to.

Gam456 · Post by **Gam456** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:07 pm

Lbdunequest wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:34 pm I dont believe Manuel is doing stress tests with Avenger.

I think its the heaviest instrument plugin on the market. Access Virus C might be heavier on CPU but because its much lighter on Ram i can use much more isntances then Avenger 2.

Access Virus C is an hardware runing with a DSP.
What are You talking about ?

ansolas wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:35 am

Falcon eat thousand of Avenger for breakfast.
and yet it still cant report its introduced latency to the host.

That's what I thought.
You have no arguments.

miloszz · Post by **miloszz** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:16 pm

msvs wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:15 am some seem obsessed with spikes.
Short spikes will always be there, since on generation of a sound after note press,

Despite my better judgement (see above: no demo) I decided to rent to own Avenger so I'd only be out one month at worst.

Playing a factory patch - PD Cinematic 2. Changing no knobs or anything else, just playing three note chords, I get CPU spikes and crackles every minute or so. (M1 Max MBP, 64GB RAM). I don't encounter this with any other plugin that I own.

ozinga · Post by **ozinga** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:41 pm

noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:37 am
m-ac wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:35 am Live tracks seem to be where 99% of users have problems with avenger.
Is that right? So those with problems can play many tracks without issue if the live track is not armed?

Yes, I posted my results to your other thread but playing some patches live cause Logic to spike the cpu and causes cuts and glitches (Logic uses the last core for live input and it constantly peaks)

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:17 pm

For those getting the issues with live playing, can you confirm whether having the plugin GUI open or closed makes any difference?

Someone advanced the theory earlier that Cubase's ASIOguard was the reason why Cubase users aren't getting issues, but that can't be the case now because playing live doesn't involve ASIOguard.

Lbdunequest · Post by **Lbdunequest** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:56 pm

Gam456 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:07 pm
Lbdunequest wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:34 pm I dont believe Manuel is doing stress tests with Avenger.

I think its the heaviest instrument plugin on the market. Access Virus C might be heavier on CPU but because its much lighter on Ram i can use much more isntances then Avenger 2.
Access Virus C is an hardware runing with a DSP.
What are You talking about ?

ansolas wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:35 am

Falcon eat thousand of Avenger for breakfast.
and yet it still cant report its introduced latency to the host.
That's what I thought.
You have no arguments.

Im talking about Osirus vst, emulator running access virus c rom

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/osirus/

ozinga · Post by **ozinga** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:03 pm

noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:17 pm For those getting the issues with live playing, can you confirm whether having the plugin GUI open or closed makes any difference?

It does not in Logic

Gam456 · Post by **Gam456** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:34 pm

Lbdunequest wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:56 pm
Im talking about Osirus vst, emulator running access virus c rom

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/osirus/

I know the DSP56300

As you know it's an emulation of the Freescale/Motorola DSP, not the Virus.

We can't compare with Avenger. It's apple and orange.

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