No synth is even close to Avenger, Avenger defines a new class of synth.
Quite funny to see a thread asking this question. The reason someone asks this question is the fact Avenger overshadows every other synth without any exception.
What synths are in equal or better footing than VPS Avenger?
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
I see, so that must be the reason why people are wondering and desperately trying to find a synth that is equal or even better than Avenger lol
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
VPS sounds weird and bad and plasticky. They charge way too much for everything (packs, upgrades, etc) and they don't care too much about their customers because they keep switching copy protection.
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- KVRian
- 521 posts since 17 Sep, 2014 from LPGC
What are wavetables (in his very own Zebra) then? Just specific forms of samples, read byte by byte like any other bloody sample out theredune_rave wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:44 pm
Somewhere I've read Urs is not a sample guy at all, rather a synth guy, so you will not drag and drop samples into zebra.
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- KVRian
- 521 posts since 17 Sep, 2014 from LPGC
Dunno about 'weird, bad and plasticky' but agree on the rest. I've used that thing less and less lately and most certainly won't burn any money on the upgrade.briefcasemanx wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:56 am VPS sounds weird and bad and plasticky. They charge way too much for everything (packs, upgrades, etc) and they don't care too much about their customers because they keep switching copy protection.
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- KVRAF
- 1867 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
Falcon is more powerful for sure.
Multitimbral, more oscillator types, more or less unlimited numbers of oscillators, filters, fx busses, modulators, you can build your own interfaces, much deeper sampling, more sequencers and midi effects via scripting.
Msoundfactory is probably the deepest but not as easy to use as Falcon or Avenger.
Avenger is easier/nicer to use than Falcon, imho.
ALL of them sound amazing and capable of pretty much any sound you can think of.
I'm spending most of my time on Current because its feature set is the most pragmatic, it's the most usable of them all and the effects are glorious (except for the reverb).
Multitimbral, more oscillator types, more or less unlimited numbers of oscillators, filters, fx busses, modulators, you can build your own interfaces, much deeper sampling, more sequencers and midi effects via scripting.
Msoundfactory is probably the deepest but not as easy to use as Falcon or Avenger.
Avenger is easier/nicer to use than Falcon, imho.
ALL of them sound amazing and capable of pretty much any sound you can think of.
I'm spending most of my time on Current because its feature set is the most pragmatic, it's the most usable of them all and the effects are glorious (except for the reverb).
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- KVRAF
- 12081 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Avenger is easier to use than Falcon but I think Rapid is the easiest to user of all the 'Uber' synths...
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- KVRAF
- 26927 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I got over that idea a long time ago... I enjoy lots of synths that all get along and cooperate
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- KVRian
- 1365 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
I stopped reading there, as I always do with such ridiculous replies. There are a lot of great synths out there and acting like any is a zillion times better than everything else is absurd...
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- KVRAF
- 1867 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
Yeah Rapid is great in terms of usability.SLiC wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 pm Avenger is easier to use than Falcon but I think Rapid is the easiest to user of all the 'Uber' synths...
I do think the basic sound is less refined than Avenger or Falcon but I mean that in a good way.
It can get really aggressive!
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- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
Really? How many people?
Doing nothing is only fun when you have something you are supposed to do.
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- KVRAF
- 2851 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
Uh, no. If we want to get technical, sure, a wavetable is made of single cycle samples but that isn't generally what is considered "samples." A wavetable is a bunch of single waveforms placed in a 2d table. It can be made from a sample (with certain software) but that is just one way to generate a wavetable. Sorry, reading my comment it's not super clear what i'm trying to state.atya wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:01 amWhat are wavetables (in his very own Zebra) then? Just specific forms of samples, read byte by byte like any other bloody sample out theredune_rave wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:44 pm
Somewhere I've read Urs is not a sample guy at all, rather a synth guy, so you will not drag and drop samples into zebra.
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- Banned
- 954 posts since 3 Apr, 2018
AgreedDCrown wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:02 am No synth is even close to Avenger, Avenger defines a new class of synth.
Quite funny to see a thread asking this question. The reason someone asks this question is the fact Avenger overshadows every other synth without any exception.
