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VOODOO U wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:53 am
Michael L wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:56 am
VOODOO U wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:33 am
Michael L wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:52 pm But we don't need memory anymore cuz we have the internet.
Do you honestly believe internet contains what makes us human systems individualistic mobile units??
Yes, that’s why we have 5G mobile phones with 1TB storage that we can individualistically customize.
There are people who have amnesia. Hooking them on to the internet won't bring back the memories lost.
Everybody has amnesia now.
Do you think anyone remembers their kvr posts?
but Once Upon a Time people used to remember phone numbers!
Now you don't need a memory if you record everything on Instagram or Facebook or photos or a reminder app on your phone. Or you can search Google keywords, or make a Spotify playlist for every important event, or query ChatGPT about what happened when you were drunk on New Year's eve 2010.
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double-post due to amnesia :drunk:
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Michael L wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:39 am double-post due to amnesia :drunk:
I think it's more indicative of inherent talent

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Bunny_boy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:09 am
Michael L wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:39 am double-post due to amnesia :drunk:
I think it's more indicative of inherent talent
Yes, I had entirely forgotten that my father and grandfather were both accomplished double-posters!
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downloaded in an app, talent is, yes.
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Michael L wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:07 am Once Upon a Time people used to remember phone numbers!
Now they remember email addresses and passwords. Same difference.

Now you don't need a memory if you record everything on Instagram or Facebook or photos or a reminder app on your phone. Or you can search Google keywords, or make a Spotify playlist for every important event, or query ChatGPT about what happened when you were drunk on New Year's eve 2010.
But you do need memory just to utilize these services in the first place.
Do you think anyone remembers their kvr posts?
Sure they do. But you certainly forgot mine! I had asked you a question in another post which was, Do you think you could even walk without memory.
If you remembered that one question you may have been able to see where I am coming from in terms of memory.
Saying we don't need memory is akin to saying art doesn't need shapes. There is no art without shape and there is no life without memory.

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VOODOO U wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:33 pm
Michael L wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:07 am Once Upon a Time people used to remember phone numbers!
Now they remember email addresses and passwords. Same difference.

Now you don't need a memory if you record everything on Instagram or Facebook or photos or a reminder app on your phone. Or you can search Google keywords, or make a Spotify playlist for every important event, or query ChatGPT about what happened when you were drunk on New Year's eve 2010.
But you do need memory just to utilize these services in the first place.
Do you think anyone remembers their kvr posts?
Sure they do. But you certainly forgot mine! I had asked you a question in another post which was, Do you think you could even walk without memory.
If you remembered that one question you may have been able to see where I am coming from in terms of memory.
Saying we don't need memory is akin to saying art doesn't need shapes. There is no art without shape and there is no life without memory.
lot of baby animals, straight from the womb, are up and walking.
probably remembering previous lives.
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Bunny_boy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:59 am Basically it comes down to whether you use Maybelline or not
Core truth right here.

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VOODOO U wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:33 pm Do you think you could even walk without memory.
If you suffer an injury where you forget everything and cannot make new memories, you will still be able to walk, talk, eat, and have sex

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vurt wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:38 pm lot of baby animals, straight from the womb, are up and walking.
probably remembering previous lives.
Well their mothers don't use Maybelline so....

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Bunny_boy wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:06 pm
VOODOO U wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:33 pm Do you think you could even walk without memory.
If you suffer an injury where you forget everything and cannot make new memories, you will still be able to walk, talk, eat, and have sex
Yes. All thanks to memory.

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Yes. All thanks to memory.
Nope.

Take reflexes, for instance. Reflex actions, like pulling your hand away from a hot surface or blinking when something approaches your eye, don't rely on memory.

Moreover, the ability to walk, talk, and eat involves a combination of motor skills, muscle memory, and ingrained patterns that can persist even in the absence of conscious memory. People with severe amnesia or memory loss due to injury often retain these abilities because they're governed by different brain regions or are deeply ingrained in our neural pathways.

Memory plays a significant role in many aspects but it's not the sole key to our ability to perform basic functions. There are intricate neural mechanisms and learned behaviors beyond memory that contribute to our everyday actions.
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enCiphered wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:34 pm Reflex actions, like pulling your hand away from a hot surface or blinking when something approaches your eye, don't rely on memory.
Survivaliam. Let's just call it the subconscious. SubC has it's set of rules "from a ROM database" to make sure life can withstand threat (to a point of course). It is what makes the body's systems function.
As you know rules are only made possible by memory.
Memory is the storage of information. The sun does what it does because of nature's laws. What are laws? Rules. Rules are stored information. Memory.
Reflexes are made possible by specific rules. You pull your hand away from a hot surface is law. A rule. Hunger is law. A rule. It's done by nature's *stored* rules.
Moreover, the ability to walk, talk, and eat involves a combination of motor skills, muscle memory, and ingrained patterns that can persist even in the absence of conscious memory
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You said yourself. Muscle *memory* and ingrained patterns. Patterns are made possible by memory because there's repetition invloved in a pattern. Nothing can repeat unless rules forcing specifics to make the pattern possible are set. And as explained, rules are made possible by memory. Conscious memory is what we call God (for lack of a better term) It's intelligence recognizing stored abilities that can be utilized in specific ways (right and wrong). Without "wrong", there would be no consciousness as we experience it but that's another can of wiggly noodles.


People with severe amnesia or memory loss due to injury often retain these abilities because they're governed by different brain regions or are deeply ingrained in our neural pathways.
Nothing can be *retained* without *something* allowing the information to be *held*. It's what we call "memory" that *retains* abilities. It's the "glue" that causes the basic machine language of life itself.


Memory plays a significant role in many aspects but it's not the sole key to our ability to perform basic functions. There are intricate neural mechanisms and learned behaviors beyond memory that contribute to our everyday actions.
Can a computer perform basic functions without memory?
*Learned behaviors" are *rules*. Beyond memory is the unknowable. Whatever science may know is imformation. All information is stored in memory and can be recalled consciously and subconsciously.

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the sun remembers to rise :)
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