The Amiga MIDI Myth - Atari ST vs Amiga War
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Treasure it my friend... I wish I still had my Atari 1040ST and Amiga 500. I still would if I had had the room. BBS, dial-up, everything that come out was "Wow, you can do that with a computer??".
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
and multitask at the same time (with Amiga)!
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- KVRist
- 143 posts since 5 Oct, 2001
"The Amiga can't do MIDI"
https://dreamertalin.medium.com/music-x-b4abc68d6f78
(go to "Aftermath I" section and read of hardware design's flaws that made MIDI unreliable on Amigas...)
https://dreamertalin.medium.com/music-x-b4abc68d6f78
(go to "Aftermath I" section and read of hardware design's flaws that made MIDI unreliable on Amigas...)
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Well, I for one did not have any problem using Amiga and MIDI though
Maybe there was something, maybe there was not. It always worked reliably for me with Octamed Pro.
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https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 10 Sep, 2015
Hmm... I always worked with multi track recording (yes hardware tape recorders), until I started using the Acorn Music 500 hardware on the BBC-B computer somewhere in 1984 (not that I stopped using tape by the way). It was not a tracker, but you could program pieces in a language called Ample. As far as I can remember there was a hardware addon that provided a MIDI out.
Anyway - More information here: https://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/acorn-music-500/8055
So - I never caught up in that Amiga vs Atari war...
Anyway - More information here: https://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/acorn-music-500/8055
So - I never caught up in that Amiga vs Atari war...
- KVRAF
- 2471 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
Does this mean that I can be smug about my choice of Atari at the time because of the built-in midi?Cochrane wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:29 pm "The Amiga can't do MIDI"
https://dreamertalin.medium.com/music-x-b4abc68d6f78
(go to "Aftermath I" section and read of hardware design's flaws that made MIDI unreliable on Amigas...)
(The built-in MIDI was a brilliant design choice by the Atari team at the time, although they did make a few other not-so-good choices.)
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
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- KVRian
- 534 posts since 26 Mar, 2014
The midi out port on the st was weird, it had both the midi out and the midi through on the same port, so you needed suitable cables for that.syntonica wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:55 pmDoes this mean that I can be smug about my choice of Atari at the time because of the built-in midi?Cochrane wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:29 pm "The Amiga can't do MIDI"
https://dreamertalin.medium.com/music-x-b4abc68d6f78
(go to "Aftermath I" section and read of hardware design's flaws that made MIDI unreliable on Amigas...)![]()
(The built-in MIDI was a brilliant design choice by the Atari team at the time, although they did make a few other not-so-good choices.)
I had Music-X with an a500 and a 4000 with an ibm-pc card in it, never noticed any problems with midi myself but i was just a happy amateur.
Mac mini m4 pro, Reaper, too many plugins, Modal Argon8, Novation Circuit Mono Station and now a lovely Waldorf Blofeld.
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- KVRist
- 219 posts since 19 Jul, 2004
I feel like Bars and Pipes was the ancestor to Bitwig
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
Had an Amiga 600 and a 1200 with a HD, midi interface etc, running OctaMed and Audio....something, sample editor.
Fun at the time, but definitely wouldn't go back.
Used a friend's Atari with Pro24? Can't remember much about it tho.
Fun at the time, but definitely wouldn't go back.
Used a friend's Atari with Pro24? Can't remember much about it tho.
How original
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
AudioMaster (versions 1 to 4)?
I could go back but I guess I would have to slave a PC with VST's with it instead of hardware synths (I sold them all).
Then again, automation was not so easily done, you had to input commands into patterns for those to happen... ok I wont go back
I could go back but I guess I would have to slave a PC with VST's with it instead of hardware synths (I sold them all).
Then again, automation was not so easily done, you had to input commands into patterns for those to happen... ok I wont go back
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
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- KVRAF
- 9880 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
One really cool prg back then was Digidesign's SoftSynth. It was available for PC and Mac. We used it at the college I attended on the 1040ST.
EDIT:
I meant it was for Mac and Atari ST, not PC.
EDIT:
I meant it was for Mac and Atari ST, not PC.
Last edited by Examigan on Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
That was it, well remembered
How original
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
If I remember right it was just the Amiga did not have built in MIDI. It could do MIDI I guess with something attached to a port/slot of some kind.
I was remembering how amazing computers seemed back then. They still are but we have relaxed to them now, back then it was an excited joy to use them, like you were in the future.
I was remembering how amazing computers seemed back then. They still are but we have relaxed to them now, back then it was an excited joy to use them, like you were in the future.