which first synth to explain synthesis ? substractive & additive

[whyterabbyt]

Don't start with a modular. That's is a wrong suggestion. How the hell this could be even suggested for a starter

I guess you must be completely new to software modular synths, but it might help you to understand if I tell you that you've accidently picked one of the few examples where the set of modules is fixed, rather than being added one at a time by the end-user.
If you have difficulty understanding that concept, and that a modular configuration could be as simple as a single VCO, please say so, and someone is sure to help you out.

[chk071]

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with modular synths though. You should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesizer, before diving into the world of building your own.

[paramita123]

We're talking about a 10yo, unless he's a computer whizz then really no need to show off fancy software synths !
A simple cool hardware box to start with would be more than enough.
Could even be a desktop unit plus a fun little keyboard like those
https://jouemusic.com/en/products/j-play-full-pack

With education always best to keep it fun and suited to the youth.
But if he's a geek then yeah a modular and watch Alex Ball YT channel

[whyterabbyt]

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with modular synths though. You should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesizer, before diving into the world of building your own.

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with a whole synthesiser, though. FYou should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesiser's component parts before diving into the world of a full prebuilt synthesiser.
First learn what a VCO is, what a VCF is, what a VCA is, etc before making it complex with an entire synth architecture of many parts cumulatively affecting the result.

[Nug Wrangler]

start with substractive synthesis

[chk071]

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with modular synths though. You should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesizer, before diving into the world of building your own.

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with a whole synthesiser, though. FYou should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesiser's component parts before diving into the world of a full prebuilt synthesiser.

Arguable. With an easy subtractive architecture like TAL-Noisemaker, you surely can learn what the different components do. Actually, it's much better than using single components, because, you can watch and learn what the effect of component A on component B is etc.

And the bonus is that you don't have redundant components (cables, in- and outputs) of a modular synth which you only need to connect different components, and which will surely rather confuse a beginner than really bring him forward.

[stoopicus]

Seriously, check out Syntorial.



https://www.syntorial.com

[LFO8]

Seriously, check out Syntorial.



https://www.syntorial.com

Exactly the suggestion I was going to make given the circumstances of the OP.

[whyterabbyt]

Arguable.

What, that its easier to learn the function of individual components within a complex device than it is to learn those components on their own?
Hundreds of years of educational practice would indicate otherwise. You got taught addition and subtraction before multiplication and division, and arithmetic before algebra and calculus, for a reason.
The question was about understanding subtractive and/or additive synthesis, and whether you accept it or not, understanding the separate building blocks involved, for what they separately are, is vital to the larger understanding of the more complex process.

Actually, it's much better than using single components

Its actually not.

And the bonus is that you don't have redundant components (cables, in- and outputs) of a modular synth which you only need to connect different components, and which will surely rather confuse a beginner than really bring him forward.

No, I think you'll find that explicitly displayed information on how things are interconnected makes things easier to understand than hidden connections.

[chk071]

That is your[ opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

I would never recommend any beginner to start with modular synthesis. Before learning how to build synthesizers, you should learn how to use them.

[whyterabbyt]

That is your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, but its an informed one.

I would never recommend any beginner to start with modular synthesis.

That is your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Before learning how to build synthesizers

None of your strawmen please, there's been no mention of building synthesisers on my part.

you should learn how to use them.

And before learning to use them, you should learn how their parts work.

[Igro]

Don't start with a modular. That's is a wrong suggestion. How the hell this could be even suggested for a starter

I guess you must be completely new to software modular synths, but it might help you to understand if I tell you that you've accidently picked one of the few examples where the set of modules is fixed, rather than being added one at a time by the end-user.
If you have difficulty understanding that concept, and that a modular configuration could be as simple as a single VCO, please say so, and someone is sure to help you out.

While you can sugest me you modular synths tutorial (thanks god), offering this to 10 years guy as a first synth doesn't sound too practical to me. In the end, he could that later on.

[Igro]

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with modular synths though. You should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesizer, before diving into the world of building your own.

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with a whole synthesiser, though. FYou should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesiser's component parts before diving into the world of a full prebuilt synthesiser.
First learn what a VCO is, what a VCF is, what a VCA is, etc before making it complex with an entire synth architecture of many parts cumulatively affecting the result.

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VCO? VCF? It is called so only in the "faithful" recreations. Those long beard guys standing with dosens of cables on their hands love those notions. Yeap, give the boy cables! Lol. ... And then he would pick a PlayStation for sure...

[vurt]

Hello,

I would like to start teaching sound creations and synthesizers use to my 10 years old son.

you wish to teach him, but does he wish to learn?
if he's eager, id imagine he'll pick it up no matter what you use, if not, he may never grasp it no matter how simple you make it.

[vurt]

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with modular synths though. You should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesizer, before diving into the world of building your own.

I wouldn't recommend any beginner to start with a whole synthesiser, though. FYou should first start to grasp the concept of a synthesiser's component parts before diving into the world of a full prebuilt synthesiser.
First learn what a VCO is, what a VCF is, what a VCA is, etc before making it complex with an entire synth architecture of many parts cumulatively affecting the result.

VCO? VCF? It is called so only in the "faithful" recreations. Those long beard guys standing with dosens of cables on their hands love those notions. Yeap, give the boy cables! Lol. ... And then he pick a PlayStation for sure.

i do cables and playstation! rebel!