The Synthmaster 3 Thread

[HOTF]

BTW, I just looked at the 32 DX7 algorithms. 30 of them can be implemented with SM3 very easily. Algorithms 4 and 6 use multi operator feedback, which is not possible yet. I will create template presets for those 30 algorithms. and hopefuly I can implement sysex import for those in the future (y)

ok people let him cook

[Hanz Meyzer]

Really like the alpha so far. Would have some suggestions regarding the osc tabs:

- If the mouse pointer is over the tab bar, it would be cool if horizontal scrolling gesture on macos and horizontal scrollwheel(?) were supported to directly scroll through the tabs. So you don't have to click on the < > buttons at all. A timesaver.
- If you click on a module in the routing view, and that module is currently hidden in the tabs view, the tab view should scroll to it/show it

Also regarding the shaper, what if you also could use a shaper module as fx module? E.g. pressing multiple sine like notes, which then go into an asymmetric shaper, to produce nice harmonic overtones related to the chord / interval you play.

So maybe in the routing view, there also could be an obligatory "mix-down" module, which takes the polyphonic input and outputs the mixdown for fx and so on. So you could also wire a shaper post the mix-down module...

[kv331]

- If the mouse pointer is over the tab bar, it would be cool if horizontal scrolling gesture on macos and horizontal scrollwheel(?) were supported to directly scroll through the tabs. So you don't have to click on the < > buttons at all. A timesaver.

Oh yes, I should implement mouse scroll wheel support for the tabs! Most users use vertical mouse wheel, so I won't check for the type of the wheel direction (horizontal or vertical). will just scroll left/right as if the user pressed the arrows.

- If you click on a module in the routing view, and that module is currently hidden in the tabs view, the tab view should scroll to it/show it

Ctrl-click a module on the routing view and the module will be the current selected one. Sorry for the lack of tutorials at this point, but I promise once I take care of the open issues (mine + reported issues) I will shoot video tutorials!

Also regarding the shaper, what if you also could use a shaper module as fx module? E.g. pressing multiple sine like notes, which then go into an asymmetric shaper, to produce nice harmonic overtones related to the chord / interval you play.

Did you mean a layer effect as opposed to a per voice effect ?

[kv331]

- please add the ability to modulate the loop points (start and end) in the sample editor! This is such a fantastic feature to have. Extremely useful.

modulating loop points is not easy in the current architecture, so I have to skip that one fo rnow.

- it would be FANTASTIC if the user could add more FX modules and not be limited to just one. It's soooo awesome that you can have many filter modules (not just one or two as is usually the case with the majority of synths) and that you can route them however you want, but it would be so much more awesome if you can also have more than one FX module.

The current architecture does not allow multiple parallel insert fx per layer. there could only be one. You can use multiple layers to achieve that goal maybe.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Did you mean a layer effect as opposed to a per voice effect ?

Yes exactly, that would provide exactly what I meant. I know that there is the distortion module, but the shaper seems to be much more capable...

[] Peter:H []

Playing with the SM3 alpha. Like it function wise so far ... GUI is not my taste.
What I could think of is to be able to route a Layer A into a Layer B. Layer A can then use Layer B's FX.
That way you could make a Layer act like a bus and this would allow to have more "buses"... just my 2 cents after a first round of explorg SM3.

[Examigan]

I believe I have the Everything collection, but don’t see the alpha version under my login.

[KTlin]

Thank you for the reply!

modulating loop points is not easy in the current architecture, so I have to skip that one fo rnow.

The current architecture does not allow multiple parallel insert fx per layer. there could only be one. You can use multiple layers to achieve that goal maybe.

I see. Yes, using multiple layers for this, although more cumbersome, might be a solution.

[KTlin]

Like it function wise so far ... GUI is not my taste.

It's just a basic prototype GUI for now.

What I could think of is to be able to route a Layer A into a Layer B. Layer A can then use Layer B's FX. That way you could make a Layer act like a bus and this would allow to have more "buses"

Well, not really. If you could route Layer A into Layer B it just means that you would basically end up with more FX slots (12 instead of 6) not with more busses cause it would be a serial-type of routing not a parallel one.

[kv331]

What I could think of is to be able to route a Layer A into a Layer B. Layer A can then use Layer B's FX.
That way you could make a Layer act like a bus and this would allow to have more "buses"... just my 2 cents after a first round of explorg SM3.

After the voices go through the Layer FX, this layer output can be sent to 3 parallel outputs:

1. main out
2. global fx bus 1
3. global fx bus 2

So, we have 2 global send buses.

[kv331]

and a resizable keyboard (or at least a horizontal scrollbar underneath the keyboard)?

I added 2 alternative methods to change the keyboard octave (update coming this weekend)

1. right click on the piano keyboard view and move mouse left/right. This will shift the octaves.
2. after enabling built-in keyboard, press left/right arrow keys. This will shift the octaves.

piano scroll.png

[KTlin]

and a resizable keyboard (or at least a horizontal scrollbar underneath the keyboard)?

I added 2 alternative methods to change the keyboard octave (update coming this weekend)

1. right click on the piano keyboard view and move mouse left/right. This will shift the octaves.
2. after enabling built-in keyboard, press left/right arrow keys. This will shift the octaves.

piano scroll.png

Awesome!

[kv331]

I believe I have the Everything collection, but don’t see the alpha version under my login.

Hi Rob

Please check your inbox

[Caine123]

very excited, i wait for the full release, does SM3 also have Granular mode now?

[kv331]

very excited, i wait for the full release, does SM3 also have Granular mode now?

Not yet. But hopefuly in January I will add that.