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syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:55 pm

Examigan wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:06 pm One really cool prg back then was Digidesign's SoftSynth. It was available for PC and Mac. We used it at the college I attended on the 1040ST.

That was back when Digi made decent software. Didn't they have a sample editor and loader that worked over MIDI and SCSI? I can't recall the name...

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:01 am

Was it Sound Designer?
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/2769-sound-designer

I also edited my other post as SoftSynth was for Atari ST or the Mac, and not the PC.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:34 am

I remember when I got my Amiga 500 and Deluxe Paint 2, the first thing I created was a red landscape that was supposed to resemble something from Total Recall back in 1994.

I've still got boxes full of Amiga floppy disks up in my loft with a whole bunch of music programs.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:43 am

donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.

Atari 1040e with 4MB RAM FTW
I have 2 of them

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:09 am

Examigan wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:01 am Was it Sound Designer?
https://www.macintoshrepository.org/2769-sound-designer

I also edited my other post as SoftSynth was for Atari ST or the Mac, and not the PC.

Yes! Thanks! Was an awesome piece of software, unmatched in what it could do. I needed an updated version of it about 10 years ago and there was nothing.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:10 am

thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:43 am
donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
Atari 1040e with 4MB RAM FTW
I have 2 of them

Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to get a MIDI splitter?

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:00 am

The first sampler I used, and used all the time, was the Ensoniq Mirage. And, the length of samples was very short, so for any sustaining sound at all loop points had to happen. And they were described in hex. Initially there was no computer interface so this procedure happened on its little display. At some point later the beige MacIntosh came to be and Ensoniq made a software interface for it. It was still describing the loop point in hexadecimal but rather easier to see.
I got fairly conversant with it. I don't remember one thing from it today.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:40 am

^conversant with/recall nothing of_hex
oh: [Mirage] has 128kB of RAM (64kB for each keyboard half) and it is not expandable. Sample rate is variable from 10 kHz to 33 kHz says the wiki.

I sent MIDI out the beige 128k Mac's serial port and some interface I vaguely recall 'The Phone Phreak' rigged for us

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:16 am

Synthman2000 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:46 pm If I remember right it was just the Amiga did not have built in MIDI. It could do MIDI I guess with something attached to a port/slot of some kind.

Indeed.

Amiga MIDI (sm).jpg

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:51 pm

syntonica wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:10 am
thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:43 am
donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
Atari 1040e with 4MB RAM FTW
I have 2 of them
Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to get a MIDI splitter?

What good would a midi-splitter be without a sequencer? BTW I bought them in the early 90's ... the second one was a back up from when I was touring. I also have a broken one for spares.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:04 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:51 pm
syntonica wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:10 am
thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:43 am
donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
Atari 1040e with 4MB RAM FTW
I have 2 of them
Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to get a MIDI splitter?
What good would a midi-splitter be without a sequencer? BTW I bought them in the early 90's ... the second one was a back up from when I was touring. I also have a broken one for spares.

I thought maybe you were running them in parallel.

I had the STe. Never get the STe. I thought "Blitter Chip.

"
But it wasn't. It came out too late in the game, no software really supported it and the TOS version I had had a bug in it. Plus, it caused all sorts of compatibility issues with older software. Then I compounded the issue with a Falcon...

I wish I'd gotten the original ST.

Freaqpeak · Post by **Freaqpeak** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:41 am

I got a midi interface for my A500 but switched it for a, back then, high quality sampler. As a kid I loved it. Amazingly more fun and creative, esp. if you dont have any real synths but a little Casio.

My Atari friends was blown away by the sound from the Amiga. The Amiga vs Atari wars... fun memories. Don't know if Atari could handle the mod formats as good as Amiga did..

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:49 pm

cnt wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:41 am Don't know if Atari could handle the mod formats as good as Amiga did..

I had an audio card that plugged into the expansion port that came with a 4-track tracker. I don't recall the specs but I believe it used 44.1/16-bit mono samples. It was fun at the time, but it never really sparked my joy like Tiger Cub did.

Ag, faulty memories!

stoopicus · Post by **stoopicus** » Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:16 pm

I went straight from an Atari 800XL (which got me through the first two years of college for things like word processing) to a Mac SE, skipping the Amiga. The Mac SE (and later SE/30) was where we did all our MIDI sequencing, mainly in Master Tracks Pro. It's hilarious, the Master Tracks Pro wikipedia page doesn't even list the Mac version, but it totally existed, and came out around the same time as the Mac Plus IIRC.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:36 am

stoopicus wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:16 pm I went straight from an Atari 800XL (which got me through the first two years of college for things like word processing) to a Mac SE, skipping the Amiga. The Mac SE (and later SE/30) was where we did all our MIDI sequencing, mainly in Master Tracks Pro. It's hilarious, the Master Tracks Pro wikipedia page doesn't even list the Mac version, but it totally existed, and came out around the same time as the Mac Plus IIRC.

My brother and sister bought an Atari 800 XL back in 1985. Our second computer after the ZX81. The first thing we played was this flight simulator. As a 7 / 8-year-old I was fully engrossed.

Didn't have any music software until my brother programmed one a year later.

I had this weird music program that played music though.

The Amiga MIDI Myth - Atari ST vs Amiga War