Arturia V Collection X -- Release Thread

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jamcat wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:44 am Arturia Mini V4 vs UADx Moog Minimoog vs a real Minimoog Model D would be an interesting shootout. None others need apply.
There's the Moog Model D app (Mac only though) - it's up there with the best sound wise.

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Atlatnesiti wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:58 am FYI; For Arturia V 9 users…
All V9 versions of existing plugins are updated to V10 versions including Arturia download centre.
Wurli and Mini V4 are not updated unless you pay £49 each for item, they remain the old versions unless you upgrade individually or upgrade to V collection X

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Huh - 3 new free MiniFreak expansions have appeared in the store - Euphoric Grooves, Deserted Lands and Synthetic Trap. Analog Lab Pro loads them regardless of whether you have the synth, 96 patches in total. Before I installed this, MiniFreak didn't appear in the browser at all, and now it does.

Splendid.
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noiseboyuk wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:29 pm Huh - 3 new free MiniFreak expansions have appeared in the store - Euphoric Grooves, Deserted Lands and Synthetic Trap. Analog Lab Pro loads them regardless of whether you have the synth, 96 patches in total. Before I installed this, MiniFreak didn't appear in the browser at all, and now it does.

Splendid.
Thanks for this, I wouldn't have known they would load in Analog Lab.

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Is the Wurli in Analog Lab the new one even if I'm still on V9? I'm not hearing any great improvement there. At least, nothing that stacks up to a real one or VReeds.

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Atlatnesiti wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:58 am FYI; For Arturia V 9 users…
All V9 versions of existing plugins are updated to V10 versions including Arturia download centre.
Good call out. I havent checked most of them, but the ones i looked at have a new Preset browser which matches the VC10 ones. I know there are other tweaks, but selecting patches is cleaner with this update imo.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:48 pm Is the Wurli in Analog Lab the new one even if I'm still on V9? I'm not hearing any great improvement there. At least, nothing that stacks up to a real one or VReeds.
There are both. Select Wurli, then set a field in Explore to show by Instrument. The new patches don't have a version number next to them, they just say Wurli
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noiseboyuk wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:51 pm That's right, you tell 'em. I played a vintage Gibson Les Paul in 1980. Used to think it was great. Now I'm all grown up, I only ever play this, and I am a boss.
Hey if you want to sound like someone from 40 years ago then by all means use a MiniMoog. :tu:

I started playing a Univox guitar in the 70's and thought it sounded great back then. But compared to the guitars and pickups we have now it was a horrid sounding toy. My guitar now sounds an order of magnitude better than my first guitars and that's the whole point. Progress in sound has been made over those decades. I have enjoyed taking advantage of that progress a great deal.

Perhaps others are simply not capable of artistic or technological growth and that's why they cling so tightly to the past. Odd that it often seems to be young people who are more stuck in the past. That's probably because people my age have already lived through that period and know it's best left to the past.
miloszz wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:09 pm You're going to be blown away when you find out people are still playing pianos... and guitars... and electric basses (only four strings!!!)... and violins...
12 wavetable oscillators and infinite modulation aren't going to improve a G-Funk bassline.
You're going to be blown away when you learn the old "Piano" gambit is the most common response. Hardly original and utterly pointless to the discussion.

There is no reason whatsoever "12 wavetable oscillators" can't do a superior G Funk line but that does require the user to have at least some sound design skills and a mind open to growth.
briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:40 pm This makes complete sense coming from the perspective of someone who doesn't actually make music with their plugins.
I'm working on four albums worth of material and all of them use plugins. But none of them use a MiniMoog because I don't want to make the same sounds I did 40 years ago. As soon as I stop wasting time at KVR today I'm going to make more music with modern synths because I've outgrown simple little toys like the MiniMoog.

But hey if your music hasn't grown or evolved in four decades then you have my deepest sympathy. :shrug:
bonch wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:46 am Synth nerds like the CS-80, but I don't think it's a mainstream synth. Big, complicated, and not as simple to use or as recognizable as the Minimoog. The CS-80's place in history has more to do with its capabilities as a performance instrument and its expensive rarity.
Beginners like the MiniMoog but I don't think it's a mainstream synth for advanced users. The MiniMoog's place in history is because it was affordable. Small and mindlessly simple.

As I always say "simple things amuse simple minds". :hihi:

Anyway I'm just messing with you guys. If you are still (for whatever reason) impressed with something like a MiniMoog then by all means use one. They bore me to death. How many decades can a Moog bass hold one's interest especially considering we have so many other awesome synths literally at our fingertips these days.

You'll have to pardon me if I think the notion that the MM is the "flagship" or "signature" synth in the Arturia 10 collection is utterly hilarious...... :lol:

So now I'm going to go make music as I do every day. Who will join me? Yeah I didn't think so. Ok enjoy your "discussions".
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geiger167 wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:57 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:58 am FYI; For Arturia V 9 users…
All V9 versions of existing plugins are updated to V10 versions including Arturia download centre.
Wurli and Mini V4 are not updated unless you pay £49 each for item, they remain the old versions unless you upgrade individually or upgrade to V collection X
Yep, confirmed.

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Been playing around with the demo of Augmented Grand Piano, I prefer the sound over Piano V3 which sounds a bit flat to my ears. Addictive Keys has been my go to but Augmented could very well replace it.

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noiseboyuk wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:56 pm There are both. Select Wurli, then set a field in Explore to show by Instrument. The new patches don't have a version number next to them, they just say Wurli
Ok, way I'm reading that: there's no way to know which Wurli presets are from the older version and which are from the newer one? It's just kind of trial and error and guessing based on what you hear? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Thanks for replying!

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If you can't make something new and good using something old, then what kind of artist are you?
Doing nothing is only fun when you have something you are supposed to do.

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Dirtgrain wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:07 pm If you can't make something new and good using something old, then what kind of artist are you?
futurist?
:ud:

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Monark is reportedly identical to NI's inhouse model. The best sounding IMO is UAD's but no External Input support.
jamcat wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:44 am Arturia Mini V4 vs UADx Moog Minimoog vs a real Minimoog Model D would be an interesting shootout. None others need apply.
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Teksonik wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:46 pm You're going to be blown away when you learn the old "Piano" gambit is the most common response. Hardly original and utterly pointless to the discussion.
Hmmm... I wonder if there's a reason "look at all these ancient instruments people still play and make meaningful art with" is the "most common response" to insipid "ewwww that piece of gear is OLD and BASIC" complaints.

Hmmmmmm...
There is no reason whatsoever "12 wavetable oscillators" can't do a superior G Funk line but that does require the user to have at least some sound design skills and a mind open to growth.


Define "superior G Funk line." What would be superior about it?

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