Hardware resale prices

[zerocrossing]

@ zerocrossing & cryophonik

Thanks for the heads up. I'll try and put some extra effort into presentation and expect to have to wait things out a little.

Maybe the software prices these days are having an effect on things too, at least from the view of someone who has only ever used software before. I've only been buying that stuff for a few years, but the price drops on that side recently have been pretty crazy at times. Even with the cheap Behringer stuff, which I'll be going for now that the Monologue didn't work out for me, the deals I've had on software in the last 12 months make the transition to hardware slightly less appealing, from a financial standpoint.

I don't know about software sales affecting hardware sales. Software has been around and good for a long time. I can't imagine that all of the sudden people are shunning hardware to buy software. Even my GEM S2, which I use as a polyphonic aftertouch controller, can't be replicated in software, obviously. They used to be very hard to find, and get snapped up instantly because they are known for their high quality.

[masterhiggins]

It’s significantly harder trying to sell software for a dollar amount that makes it feasible. Transfer fees end up being a majority of the asking price. I think a lot of devs are going to go under over the next few years and reselling licenses will be even more difficult than it is now.

[chk071]

The Behringer Pro-800.

I was about to make the same suggestion! I haven't touched one yet, but that's a lot of synth (and great sound) for the money.

Absolutely. If there's an analog synth I would buy, then that is it.

[osiris]

Don't forget shipping. Something that big you can usually bake shipping into the price and just say Free Shipping. I sold a TV once and it costs a little more than $50 to ship. Don't forget insurance either. you might regret it.

[Uncle E]

PolySource will be my insta-buy.

[chk071]

In Germany, that kind of shipping is insured up to 500 € by default. So, you can safely send it without additional insurance. Anything above that, you should send insured.

[Choikdoi]

So Bogue would be my answer.

Forgive my ignorance, unless it was a typo! What's a Bogue?

[chk071]

Boog, I guess. Behringer + Moog = Boog.

[zerocrossing]

It’s significantly harder trying to sell software for a dollar amount that makes it feasible. Transfer fees end up being a majority of the asking price. I think a lot of devs are going to go under over the next few years and reselling licenses will be even more difficult than it is now.

I don't begrudge a developer the ability to charge a transfer fee, as every licensed sold is not a license they can make money off of, and maybe one that they may have to provide support for. OTOH, Reverb and eBay basically give me a page on their site and little else, and seem to want a crazy percentage, along with Paypal, for the privilege. I was lucky to be able to find a local guy who wanted my MFB Dominion 1, and I got a fair price for it. I had to inflate the price a lot in the Reverb listing so I didn't end up taking a bath on it.

[Choikdoi]

Ahhh, got it

[D-Fusion]

PolySource will be my insta-buy.

Same here

[egbert101]

PolySource will be my insta-buy.

Same here

Hell yeah. Although a three oscillator Memorymoog clone would be even nicer.

[vurt]

No stores close by, and health issues make travelling difficult, otherwise I would have done so prior to buying the Monologue.

vurt, not sure if you missed the question earlier... how long did it take you (with modular), going from the complete unknown until being at least what you would call competent?

for basic stuff, fairly quick really, then over time got more comfortable with bigger patches.
if i hadn't been having fun within an hour of switching on, i probably wouldn't have invested more time, energy and cash.
that's why i suggest going for whatever sounds good, if you get something that excites you, you will invest more time in to using and learning it. imho.

[Choikdoi]

No stores close by, and health issues make travelling difficult, otherwise I would have done so prior to buying the Monologue.

vurt, not sure if you missed the question earlier... how long did it take you (with modular), going from the complete unknown until being at least what you would call competent?

for basic stuff, fairly quick really, then over time got more comfortable with bigger patches.
if i hadn't been having fun within an hour of switching on, i probably wouldn't have invested more time, energy and cash.
that's why i suggest going for whatever sounds good, if you get something that excites you, you will invest more time in to using and learning it. imho.

OK, thanks. I probably will stick to the original plan of learning it later on down the line. Good to know that there will be help available on here, when that time comes

[BertKoor]

Monologue is underrated. [...]

Yeah, I'm certainly underrating it myself too, I know. Definitely due to a lack of knowledge of how to get the best out of it. But, I gave it a month [...]

My advice would be to stick with that Monologue for now. Do allow yourself to dive deeper into it, since you can get out much more of it. Only problem is you don't know how. Yet! It takes time, and lots of it. One month is the blink of an eye.

Chances are that this is going to be a repeating pattern, which is not good for your wallet: you see videos of synths that seem excellent when used by others, but under your own control they just don't deliver.

Remember that these are just instruments. It's due to virtue of the player that astonishing sounds come out, it does not happen all by itself.