Discovery Pro synthesizer 6.4 to 8.0

[modularmoog]

A question to DiscoDSP. Not an attempt to flame (I seriously like Discovery PRO, I only disagree with the upgrade price tag and attitude to tell customers to wait for a sale that surely will come).

Anyways, the changelog claims:

Expanded Preset Library: Dive into a world of sonic exploration with our expanded preset library, filled with fresh and inspiring sounds.

Are these new sounds not in the current demoversion of v8, because it contains exactly the same banks like in my purchased version 7.9

The only thing i can find is a new folder called programs inside presets folder, but they look like the banks just batch-converted fxb to fxp and sorted by genre

Are these new ones exclusive to full version v8 owners or have i overseen something ?

[hurricaneaudiolab]

re: the new presets: I've asked this question twice and discoDSP clearly do not want to answer.

[audiojunkie]

I know it seems that I am playing both sides of the fence on this issue, but I am also trying to be fair. To be clear, I too have been frustrated by some of the controversial decisions this company has made over the years. The biggest ones have been: Going to challenge response authentication (on everything except Linux, which I use. Not using C/R on Linux kept me as a customer), dealing with that annoying AI speech instead of having a normal (real person) speech, and upgrades that don't seem to account to much. At the same time, however, George has been one of the few people that has supported Linux since the beginning. I have an use Bliss Sampler, and there aren't many sampler options on Linux. And finally, to be fair, one must consider all of the updates of the 7.x series. George has generally charged for major version upgrades. It's his software, and he is allowed to charge what he wants. Users can then decide if it is worth it or not. I have usually upgraded every other full version upgrade, to offset the costs Bliss Sampler costs for me, and to offset the meager updates. The thing here, is that everyone is seeing the tiny feature set of the Discovery Pro 8 (listed below), but hasn't considered the person who was in the 6.x series, and then upgraded to the 7.x series. If you make that consideration, it is fair that everyone note ALL of the updates of the 7.x series when considering what their purchase provided for them. I have listed all of them below so that everyone can think about it. Again, I'm not saying anyone has to agree with me. I'm simply saying that I suspect that some people haven't considered this. The features of Discovery Pro 8 only lists a few things right now, but remember there will be an 8.1, and 8.2, an 8.3, etc. that will be included in the price of moving to 8 series. Make your own decision--no pressure here.

1/1/24

Key Features of Discovery Pro 8

Framework Update and DSP Improvements:

Refined Oscillators: With twice the detail, our improved oscillators enhance both low and high-frequency sounds, offering an unrivaled audio experience.
Advanced Distortion Modes: Our distortion modes are now four times more precise, adding rich depth and character to your productions.
Analog-Sounding Filters: We've updated several filters to emulate analog warmth and texture, now offering twice the richness.
Enhanced Preset Management with Disk Mode:

Navigate effortlessly through presets and folders in our newly introduced Disk Mode: This feature allows users to browse presets within 'Documents > discoDSP > Discovery Pro > Presets > Programs' folder with ease. Toggle between Bank and Disk Modes with a simple click on the LCD's BNK letter. For added convenience, we've integrated new file preset export functions in the Edit menu.
Expanded Preset Library: Dive into a world of sonic exploration with our expanded preset library, filled with fresh and inspiring sounds.
The new update also includes a Tick to Grid Value Conversion display, updated framework, Edit menu streamlining, and other stability and improvements.

9/9/23

We are thrilled to announce the release of Discovery Pro 7.9.

What's new

Refined the Rhythmic Pattern Transition Probabilities into a singular function for diverse matrixes like standard, jazz, and techno.
Introduced a feature under Edit > Randomize > Layer/Program from Disk to load random layers or programs from banks.
Optimized zone presets and editing menus for a seamless experience.
Incorporated the edit Gate and Mod Repeat functions for different cell sizes: 4, 8, and 16.
Enhanced Mod zone cell values editing through right-click or ctrl-click on macOS.
Improved accessibility: Editing menu is now available from any macOS GUI location using ctrl+click.
Upgraded preset renaming: Auto-focus on the text input box.
Resolved a tuning issue for the WAVE oscillator on blank tracks.
Efficiently revamped the WAVE import dialogue.
Addressed popup menu display anomalies and ensured consistent downward display.
Fixed a macOS standalone MIDI Bluetooth issue.
Updated the core framework and integrated the latest VST3 and AAX SDKs.
Handled rendering complications related to macOS Metal.

6/17/23

Discovery Pro 7.8.2

Activation Window Issue Resolved: The problem where the activation window was opening in the background has been fixed.
VST3 Parameter Issue Addressed: A patch has been applied to sort out the VST3 parameter glitch.
Minor Skin Asset Updates: The default skin assets have been updated for a more refreshing look.
Noise Issue Fixed: We've resolved the issue of noise interference during license activation in some DAW hosts.
Removal of Legacy Banks Message: The message dialog for 'legacy banks not found' has been removed for a smoother user experience.
Improved Navigation: Certain menus have been sorted and organized for more efficient navigation.

5/28/23

We are thrilled to announce the release of Discovery Pro 7.8.

What's new

Introducing the stunning new Silver Haze skin designed by Ilkka Rosma.
Updated and enhanced the default Nordic Dawn skin.
Added the captivating Shadow Wave skin.
Updated and new skins now support high-resolution displays with 30x and 40x assets for 1.5x and 2x GUI sizes.
Fixed the standalone program change function for seamless performance.
Resolved the Quick Stack behavior issue. The current layer now blinks to indicate its active state.
Added octave submenus to the Custom Key Split dropdown, providing more flexibility.
Clicking the Key Split dropdown or LED now cycles between Off, Dual, Custom, and Custom (edit) states.
Implemented various minor fixes and enhancements for an improved user experience.

4/16/23

We are thrilled to announce the latest update to Discovery Pro, version 7.7, which brings a host of new features and improvements.

The ProTools AAX plugin has been compiled as a universal binary, with native support for Apple Silicon architecture.
The license activation system has been integrated into the plug-in, eliminating the need to input the serial number during each installation.
The Percussion banks [64] Percussion 1 and [65] Percussion 2 have been updated with oscillator phase reset enabled.
New menu option 'Program' which lists the saved presets in Documents > discoDSP > Discovery Pro > Presets > Programs, providing quicker access to favourite presets.
The Wave + and - Octave Shift buttons are now functioning correctly.
Added the behaviour of the Shift + left click function on the oscillator label or LED to toggle only between its current On state and the Off state.
Please note that the Windows installer will overwrite any stock files, so make sure to backup your Discovery Pro documents folder for safety.

3/12/23

We are excited to announce a new update to our Discovery Pro software synth! This update includes a range of new features and improvements that we believe will greatly enhance your music production experience. Here's a rundown of the changes:

Added oscillator phase reset feature, which can be accessed by clicking the oscillator label or selecting it from the menu under the "swap" option.
Implemented a major update to the software framework for improved stability and performance.
Optimized PADSynth rendering for faster operation based on system specs and CPU cores.
Fixed an issue where the WAVE oscillator was muted after disabling PAD mode.
Added AI-based pattern randomization for Gate and Mod Gates with standard, jazz, and techno models.
Made minor graphical user interface enhancements for better usability.
Added a new macOS icon for easier identification on desktop.
Added "Save Program to Disk" function for easier saving of presets to the "Documents > discoDSP > Discovery Pro > Presets > Programs" folder.

5/23/22

Discovery Pro has been updated to 7.5.

What's new:

Framework update with enhanced stability and reliability.
AAX SDK update.
Most GUI labels are now clickable.
Demo is available for macOS, Windows and Linux

Update for 7.x customers can be found at discoDSP Members Area.

3/17/22

Discovery Pro has been updated to 7.4.

What's new:

Framework update with enhanced stability and reliability.
Universal 2 Binary ProTools AAX for future proofing.
AAX plugin now compiled with the latest 2.4 SDK.
Bypass FX now persistent across bank changes.
Enabled 2X GUI size for HiDPI displays.
Fixed Skins folders not working in Linux.
Fixed MIDI XML templates not working in Linux.
Fixed MIDI learn not working in Linux.
Nord Lead 2/4 MIDI templates now mirrors sync oscillator type with the board.
Demo is available for macOS, Windows and Linux

11/1/21

Discovery Pro has been updated to 7.3.3

What's new:

Fixed SysEx import/export issue.
Active WAVE oscillator now displays correctly at popup menu.
Fixed crash after clicking < or > on WAVE LCD.
Fixed first bank preset WAVE not sounding after loading.
Fixed issues with WAVE oscillator and AAX plugin.
Fixed AAX crashing ProTools after loading.

7/25/21

Discovery Pro 7.3 released

We have released Discovery Pro 7.3 for macOS, Windows and Linux.

What's new

New default Nordic Dawn skin by Ilkka Rosma.
New edit menu skins selector.
New Gate and Mod 0.5x / 1.0x / 2x speed switch under Edit drop down.
Added Gate and Mod cell position highlight.
Gate and Mod GUI fixes after reopening window.
Fixed Shift + left click behavior in Gate and Mod cell editing.

2/14/21

What's new

Discovery 4.5, Discovery Pro 7.2, OPL 2.1 and Vertigo 4.1 share the following fixes and enhancements:

ProTools AAX support for Windows and macOS.
Linux VST3 build.
macOS Universal 2 Binary compiled with XCode 12.4 and new build system.
Miscellaneous fixes, framework update and stability improvements.
Updates for all the products are available at discoDSP Members Area.

Demo versions are also available at their corresponding product pages

12/15/20

Discovery Pro 7.1

Universal 2 Binary for Apple M1 Silicon chips.
Enhanced MIDI CC with board XML based presets and MIDI learn.
Fixed drop down filter menu disappearing after click.
Right click to morph support for all platforms.
Mouse wheel support for knobs.
Major framework update.
Updated VST 3 SDK.
GUI fixes.
Critical Linux bug crash.

5/4/20

Discovery Pro updated to 7.0

Discovery Pro has been updated to 7.0.

What's new

Active voices are now muted on program change.
ASIO support in Windows Standalone app.
EDIT menu redesign and enhancements.
Enhanced preset interaction with AU and VST3 hosts.
Fixed automation parameter display in Cubase VST3.
Framework update for increased stability and compatibility.
Full bank preset categorisation. Now 100 banks available.
macOS Standalone native menus and look & feel.
Parameter refactor with enhanced automation and proper learn, touch and latch modes support.
Preset list enhancements for VST3 and AU.
Removed Linux Webkit component for increased compatibility.
Upgrades and cross-grades for previous customers are available at Members Area.

[modularmoog]

It does not mean it seems you are playing on both sides. It prove you play on DisscoDSP side

Why? Come on, no sane and honest person with no interests would post "the history of a company" this way?

Honestly, Reading this makes me disgusted mr Audiojunkie

[audiojunkie]

I use a high resolution screen with my Linux system, and I didn't want to stay on VST2, when it is being done away with. These things alone made the change from the 6.x series, which I couldn't use because of the small gui, to the 7.x series worth while (if I would have purchased it). These were the highlights of the 7.x series for me:

Parameter refactor with enhanced automation and proper learn, touch and latch modes support.
Removed Linux Webkit component for increased compatibility
ASIO support in Windows Standalone app.
Universal 2 Binary for Apple M1 Silicon chips.
Right click to morph support for all platforms.
Enhanced MIDI CC with board XML based presets and MIDI learn
ProTools AAX support for Windows and macOS.
The ProTools AAX plugin has been compiled as a universal binary, with native support for Apple Silicon architecture.
Linux VST3 build.
New default Nordic Dawn skin by Ilkka Rosma.
Introducing the stunning new Silver Haze skin designed by Ilkka Rosma.
New Gate and Mod 0.5x / 1.0x / 2x speed switch under Edit drop down.
Enabled 2X GUI size for HiDPI displays.
Updated and new skins now support high-resolution displays with 30x and 40x assets for 1.5x and 2x GUI sizes.
Implemented a major update to the software framework for improved stability and performance.
Added AI-based pattern randomization for Gate and Mod Gates with standard, jazz, and techno models.
Added "Save Program to Disk" function for easier saving of presets to the "Documents > discoDSP > Discovery Pro > Presets > Programs" folder.
Added oscillator phase reset feature, which can be accessed by clicking the oscillator label or selecting it

[audiojunkie]

It does not mean it seems you are playing on both sides. It prove you play on DisscoDSP side

Why? Come on, no sane and honest person with no interests would post "the history of a company" this way?

Honestly, Reading this makes me disgusted mr Audiojunkie

And that's ok with me. I've given my opinion, and tried to be fair. I don't plan on buying Discovery Pro, because I don't really like the sound--I use Diva, Repro, and Hive 2 for plugins with sound that I like.

[audiojunkie]

It does not mean it seems you are playing on both sides. It prove you play on DisscoDSP side

Why? Come on, no sane and honest person with no interests would post "the history of a company" this way?

Honestly, Reading this makes me disgusted mr Audiojunkie

Anyone who has followed DiscoDSP in the forums will know that I've had plenty of criticism for George & co. ...and I'm to old to give a crap about what anyone says about me. Call me a shill if you want. Those who've been here as long as I have know the truth.

[modularmoog]

Thanks for that info... did not know those synths. Never heard about. Thanks for that info mate.

I notice ACE2 from U-HE is actually cheaper than the upgrade alone for Discovery Pro. I need to dive into that. If it also represents commitment to providing an cutting-edge technology like DisocDSP does, then i will check the horizon.

[audiojunkie]

Thanks for that info... did not know those synths. Never heard about. Thanks for that info mate.

I notice ACE2 from U-HE is actually cheaper than the upgrade alone for Discovery Pro. I need to dive into that. If it also represents commitment to providing an cutting-edge technology like DisocDSP does, then i will check the horizon.

I know that you are being sarcastic, but I really do highly regard U-he (Urs) as a person and his company. If you want a great product that retains its value and sounds head and shoulders above others, U-he is the way to go. If only I could talk him into making a sampler........

[modularmoog]

Oh, I totally get your admiration for U-he and Urs! Their products are indeed top-notch. And hey, convincing Urs to make a sampler would be a game-changer! Imagine the magic he could work with that. Fingers crossed for some convincing arguments in the future!

[hurricaneaudiolab]

so discoDSP - asking for the 3rd time - where are the new presets?

[hurricaneaudiolab]

I wanted to compare more presets, but it was pointless:

[JonSolo]

Thank you. I don't need to hear from George. I knew this was all BS.

How can I buy you a coffee Hurricane?

[hurricaneaudiolab]

Ha - no need, but thanks.

Also, I made a tiny mistake that won't affect the results but I'll repost later so I'm taking it down for a bit.

[Choikdoi]

I'd be interested to see the results of the developer (or whoever has the account on here) attempting a blind preset test arranged by someone impartial.

Edit -

Although, I guess they'd still have tools to be able to analyse the audio and visually see something in it. So, never mind, wishful thinking!