Charlatan³ Free VA synth updated to v3.3.2 (Win/Linux)

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Koldunya wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:08 pm a YouTuber ('thatpluginguy' or something) posted something about this, and while I absolutely do not need another synthesizer, I liked the UI and took it for a spin, and damn, I love this synth, now. It's pleasing to look at, easy to get around and figure things out, and sounds great :D

Thanks for sharing!
Unfortunately, those with a 4k monitor, using 2x scaling on everything else can’t enjoy this synth…… 😕
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First of all I want to Thank You for your fantastic synth.
Can I ask you if you plan to add, in a future release, the possibility of copying the waveform between the two oscillator slots and the possibility of reading the sounds from a subdir where the synth is installed for a easy portability between different computers.
Thank You again and Best Regards.

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rickdom wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:11 pm First of all I want to Thank You for your fantastic synth.
Can I ask you if you plan to add, in a future release, the possibility of copying the waveform between the two oscillator slots and the possibility of reading the sounds from a subdir where the synth is installed for a easy portability between different computers.
Thank You again and Best Regards.
Thanks for the suggestions, copying of waveforms is in fact already on my To Do list.
Regarding the location of the presets, I'm not so sure, to be honest, but I'll have to think about it some more.
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audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:16 pm Unfortunately, those with a 4k monitor, using 2x scaling on everything else can’t enjoy this synth…… 😕
For an intermediate solution, I'm thinking of allowing to upscale the current standard resolution UI by some integer factor. Still, this might take some time as there are lots of things to be figured out.
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wikter wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:04 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:02 pm This will push the lfo rate even further .
This seems a bit inconsistent
This is also hapening with Filter cutoff. Setting it to its highest frecuency you can get a more open sound using the envelope. In fact I've seen that althoug in Low & mid frequencies, the resonating frequency is the same as the filter shows, with frequencies higher than 8k that starts to drop.
Filter cutoff frequency displayed/Resonating frequency shown in analyzer:
1050/1050
1775/1750
3430/3430
10200/9700Hz
12050/11510Hz
14600/13580Hz
15900/14600Hz
22000/18790Hz
This looks more like the typical frequency warping resulting from the discretisation of the filter model. Like most things in the digital realm, it is mitigated by operating at a higher sample rate (oversampling or increasing the host sample rate).

One exception is the Acid filter where the inaccurate tuning is inherent to the (analog) model.

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is it possible to have alternate scale for drawing the harmonics of waveform.(vital,thorn, zebralette have a power scale).it is easier to draw.
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karrikuh wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:00 am
audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:16 pm Unfortunately, those with a 4k monitor, using 2x scaling on everything else can’t enjoy this synth…… 😕
For an intermediate solution, I'm thinking of allowing to upscale the current standard resolution UI by some integer factor. Still, this might take some time as there are lots of things to be figured out.
Thank you!!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
:roll:

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k2006 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:46 am is it possible to have alternate scale for drawing the harmonics of waveform.(vital,thorn, zebralette have a power scale).it is easier to draw.
I think what you want is the "Damped" mode in the dropdown menu, which scales the amplitude by 1/n (-6dB/octave).

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Thank you for your kind response.

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Why does the linux version link libsystemd.so? A soft synth should not depend on the init system, and there are several Linux distributions (e.g. Slackware which I run) that do not rely on systemd, and more than a few users who do not desire it. This seems an unnecessary dependency.

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caonoize wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:33 pm Why does the linux version link libsystemd.so? A soft synth should not depend on the init system, and there are several Linux distributions (e.g. Slackware which I run) that do not rely on systemd, and more than a few users who do not desire it. This seems an unnecessary dependency.
Charlatan uses the sd-bus API from libsystemd to access the system file browser dialogs (e.g. org.freedesktop.portal.FileChooser). Despite its name, libsystemd can be installed on its own without pulling in the systemd init system in all major distros I checked. I do not know what the situation is with Slackware, though.

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That is not really a very satisfying answer. Writing as someone who has been programming computers for over four decades, and running a Linux box as his daily driver since '94, I'm quite discouraged by the general direction of desktop Linux. If I wanted all that bloat, I'd have just purchased a consumer box like a Mac or Windows PC. I guess I'm stuck with running the windows version via yabridge or fsthost. I strongly feel a synth should use the native widgets provided, qt and gtk being more or less standard these days on Linux. For porting, many use JUCE even though that's a big ugly build.

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caonoize wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:51 am That is not really a very satisfying answer. Writing as someone who has been programming computers for over four decades, and running a Linux box as his daily driver since '94, I'm quite discouraged by the general direction of desktop Linux. If I wanted all that bloat, I'd have just purchased a consumer box like a Mac or Windows PC. I guess I'm stuck with running the windows version via yabridge or fsthost. I strongly feel a synth should use the native widgets provided, qt and gtk being more or less standard these days on Linux. For porting, many use JUCE even though that's a big ugly build.
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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For those who don't understand this English phrase:

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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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Reminds me of this comment.

At several points in this thread I've thought “why are people being so bloody entitled?
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