Arturia Storm?

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Sicklecell666]

You wanna buy back your license?

[Mighty_Hero]

ttoz, you confuse me badly

I thought you were going hardware again?

[spaceman]

Storm is a toy with some very awful instruments indeed

[headquest]

Storm is a toy with some very awful instruments indeed

Agreed.

ttoz - did you try Audition yet? Free 30 day full working demo from their site Possibly the best audio programme in the world, with great looping tools to apint in your 10000 wav loops, and with ReWire for Reason... what more can you want?

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Notron User]

Just get a mac, buy logic, and swear that you will never buy a third party plug.

Problem sorted.

[VitaminD]

buy the propellerheads company.. then order them to make what you want.

problem solved.

[Improv]

ttoz, you confuse me badly

I thought you were going hardware again?

Ya, but just think of the whiplash he must give himself with all those sharp, sudden turns: PC-MAC-PC, software-hardware!

Damn!

[jens]

My big concern is i really want to avoid anything that will tempt me to add vst instruments. why dont they make a host that is purely audio and rewire compatible and has state of the art time and pitch shift but no third party plug in support? maybe cause i'd be the only person to buy it

o.k. it's not rewire compatible but apart from that Magix Audio Studio (Samplitude light) offers everything you asked for. It even includes a kick-ass drum-synth/sequencer developed by Digitalfishphones' Sascha Eversmeier and a very good 303 emulation (step-sequencer included)

- of course it has midi-sync so you can sync it to whatever you want...

(edit: I reread what you wrote - it is vst/dx compatible (fx only) )

[Stupid American Pig]

I say use Little drummer boy and hammer head to make all of your tunes.

[SecondSkin]

Theo --

Buy a copy of Live 3 (there are still some floating around, at good prices) and don't upgrade it -- just rewire to Reason. I still use Live 3 this way with FLS and have never felt the need to upgrade.

Mark

[headquest]

I actually have a cool edit pro 1.2 license so i can get a good upgrade path to audition. tell me, does audition time stretch in real time, in preview mode too? i.e. before you add the loop to the project?

You configure looping properties for each loop, e.g. will it loop according to beats/seconds/simple? Will it change pitch or not, etc. You simply right click any piece of audio which you have brought in via the browser, select "looping properties" from the drop-down, and a dialogue comes up which you will quickly get used to.

Regarding time-stretch/pitch shift it gets great results. Once a loop is enabled, it gets a bevelled corner and you drag it out for as many times as you like. A bit like Acid.

My big concern is i really want to avoid anything that will tempt me to add vst instruments. why dont they make a host that is purely audio and reqire compatible and has state of the art time and pitch shift but no third party plug in support? maybe cause i'd be the only person to buy it

Audition IS that program. It is audio sequencer only (no MIDI editing or VST instruments, etc) You have 128 audio tracks to record on in multitrack view (can record up to 32 at a time depending on your hardware). Full mixer including busses, etc. Destructive editing in edit view.

Audition *can* import DX or VST effects, but you don't need to. The FX that come with Audition are second to none, including great sounding convolution-based reverbs, filters, etc, ... right through to incredible state-of-the-art noise reduction, hum removal, clip restoration etc. if you need it. Also everything you need to master, including CD burning.

And because Audition will work as a ReWire host, you can use its FX on your Reason tracks and do your Reason mixing in Audition if you choose to.

Having read your various recent posts I can see that Reason is gonna suit your way of working (as it does mine) and the sounds you get in NN-XT and ReDrum knock the spots off the other "soft studios".

I think that Audition will provide the perfect ReWire partner for you based on the needs you have mentioned, so I hope this helps. And good luck!

[TVD]

Anyone have any experience with V3? Is it ultra stable?

I am in love with reason but hate the audio file situation. Storm apparently imports audio and tempo matches on the fly.it rewires to reason. it is inexpensive. this could be the ultimate closed, non vsti based combo i dreamed of.

Also, would dual processors be a great advantage in this case? (i.e. rewiring).

since denormalization is not an issue with reason (and I am looking for info on storm), would actually a hyperthreaded P$ be better than my single current athlon xp?

I would like to avoid dual route if possible. complicated, expensive, and noisy.

cheers

IMHO, Storm is good but not great.

Check out FLS or Orion.

[TVD]

Ok, storm demo tried. it now takes the cake as worst sequencer ever. Orion is a complete work of art compared to this POS. tiny buttons, and horrible audio performance. It wasn't even happy at 6ms asio, it ran best at 11. far too high. Very inneficient. Sound on Sound reveiew did say it was a cpu pig though.

I actually have a cool edit pro 1.2 license so i can get a good upgrade path to audition. tell me, does audition time stretch in real time, in preview mode too? i.e. before you add the loop to the project?

My big concern is i really want to avoid anything that will tempt me to add vst instruments. why dont they make a host that is purely audio and reqire compatible and has state of the art time and pitch shift but no third party plug in support? maybe cause i'd be the only person to buy it

The only thing that comes close to being the all-in-one studio solution is (Brace Yourself!!!).....

Logic Pro 7

As much as I didn't care for Logic back at v4.5, having this software with a multi-purpose synth (ES2), a sampler (EXS2), and a drum synth from hell (UltraBeat) may have been the solution to your problem.

Damn Emagic for turning their backs on PC users!