Ableton 12 - Generative MIDI, Multiband Distortion and more

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ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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It seems this Max 8.6 update is a big deal.

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So I see in the change log that operator now supports polyphonic pitch bend, but does it support poly pressure and timbre/y-axis mod sources?

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I finally made the beta, so release must be close :lol:

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It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?

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Wow, seriously? Is this still a thing @andy-cytomic?

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noiseresearch wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:12 pm
andy-cytomic wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:42 am [...] continuing collaboration work with Ableton, which will soon be released to the public [...]
I still wonder what this could be andy-cytomic mentioned in 2021!
Must be something other than filters but what? I'm super curious.
andy-cytomic wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:22 am [...] I have licensed filters to Ableton for use in their products [...] The work I delivered a while back includes a bunch of stuff I've yet to see in any alpha or beta yet, so fingers crossed it will be added at some stage. The folks at Ableton are keeping busy, this stuff takes time.
Maybe it can make it way to 12.5 :lol:
Possibly his work in roar with the distortion types?

EDIT: This is speculation/guesswork i have no idea
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qtheerearranger wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 pm
noiseresearch wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:12 pm
andy-cytomic wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:42 am [...] continuing collaboration work with Ableton, which will soon be released to the public [...]
I still wonder what this could be andy-cytomic mentioned in 2021!
Must be something other than filters but what? I'm super curious.
andy-cytomic wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:22 am [...] I have licensed filters to Ableton for use in their products [...] The work I delivered a while back includes a bunch of stuff I've yet to see in any alpha or beta yet, so fingers crossed it will be added at some stage. The folks at Ableton are keeping busy, this stuff takes time.
Maybe it can make it way to 12.5 :lol:
Possibly his work in roar with the distortion types?
Is that a fact, that he worked on Roar? You'd think Ableton would mention that in their marketing since a lot of their users are well aware of what Cytomic brings to the table.


Apologies if it's been addressed already in this thread, but it's 48 pages.

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noiseresearch wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:12 pm
andy-cytomic wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:42 am [...] continuing collaboration work with Ableton, which will soon be released to the public [...]
I still wonder what this could be andy-cytomic mentioned in 2021!
Must be something other than filters but what? I'm super curious.
andy-cytomic wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:22 am [...] I have licensed filters to Ableton for use in their products [...] The work I delivered a while back includes a bunch of stuff I've yet to see in any alpha or beta yet, so fingers crossed it will be added at some stage. The folks at Ableton are keeping busy, this stuff takes time.
Maybe it can make it way to 12.5 :lol:
I think this was the filter in Drift?

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im just guessing i have no idea what andy worked on or didnt work on. Ive never had the pleasure of directly talking to him. I like you though remember that post. Now that you say it though I do agree, they usually mention when andy has worked on something with them. I just felt like i should clarify i was 100% speculating. my fault for not making that clear. apologies
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qtheerearranger wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:52 pm im just guessing i have no idea what andy worked on or didnt work on. Ive never had the pleasure of directly talking to him. I like you though remember that post. Now that you say it though I do agree, they usually mention when andy has worked on something with them. I just felt like i should clarify i was 100% speculating. my fault for not making that clear. apologies
No apology needed. I thought it might have been speculation, was just curious

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Dalle wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:48 pm
noiseresearch wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:12 pm
andy-cytomic wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:42 am [...] continuing collaboration work with Ableton, which will soon be released to the public [...]
I still wonder what this could be andy-cytomic mentioned in 2021!
Must be something other than filters but what? I'm super curious.
andy-cytomic wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:22 am [...] I have licensed filters to Ableton for use in their products [...] The work I delivered a while back includes a bunch of stuff I've yet to see in any alpha or beta yet, so fingers crossed it will be added at some stage. The folks at Ableton are keeping busy, this stuff takes time.
Maybe it can make it way to 12.5 :lol:
I think this was the filter in Drift?
Filter II in Drift is a low detailed version of the same MS2 model in other Ableton instrument devices. I don’t think this required a lot of work (I could be wrong though).

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It refuses description, allowing only the vague approach of adjectives: dark, light, raw, angelic. Who or what is making these noises? Where are they coming from and what do they point to? What kind of entity can leave such a troubling sonic remnant?

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IIRC this Cytomic cite was related to the improved filters in the Live 11.1 update back in February 2022 :hihi:

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