reFX EULA

[User3]

The reFX EULA reads as follows: “You are authorized to use the Licenced Materials only for personal use.”
Does this mean that you are forbidden to create music using Nexus so that others can listen to it? Does this mean that you are allowed to create music using Nexus so that you can listen to it yourself alone?

[MJACau]

"Personal use" Using their tool/software.
That output of whatever you make from it, is yours. If not, that would defeat the purpose and be pretty silly like you can only play rock on Gibson guitars?!

That would be my understanding.

[sircuit]

While your interpretation is corret, they don't enforce it that way.

In the context of what's next in the EULA, they likely refer to "personal use" as "you're not allowed to borrow the license (authentication credentials)" to others.

There is a ton of other red flags in what Nexus has become, but this is not one of them

[gaggle of hermits]

I think the most sensible conclusion is that the lawyer who wrote it (if a lawyer was involved and this wasn't simply a cut and paste job from some other contracts the vendor liked the look of) is an idiot, didn't understand the market the product was for, or both.

[chk071]

It's probably just like with the stuff from Vengeance-Sound: You're simply not allowed to sell the sounds and vocals as if you created it. I.e. you are not allowed to sell sample packs with these sounds in it.

If it was any different, then there wouldn't be thousands of hit records made with Nexus.

It's another one of those silly "I interpret the EULA the way I want" kind of things which KVR Audio is so famous for.

If you have any doubts, just ask refx. But, I can already tell you that the answer will be exactly what I wrote. It's always the same.

Common sense should already tell you that they surely won't restrict you to make commercial music with it. Nexus is a very big thing in EDM genres. It wouldn't be if everyone was only allowed to use it for "personal use".

But, hey, maybe Armin van Buuren and likes will all get sued by refx tomorrow.

[gaggle of hermits]

there's no reason why refx can't have a sensible contract. or why people should have to accept without question that something written down that claims to have the support of law should be ignored because "that's not how it should be interpreted". lawyers are paid to lawyer for a reason.

[ramseysounds]

It means if you bought the licence, you use it personally. No sharing software. Come on

[gaggle of hermits]

people who argue "well it just means x" really should educate themselves on copyright trolls.

will refx do this? extremely unlikely. but it's possible refx could go bust and someone buys their ip because the new owner sees a payday "fining" registered users.

https://medium.com/illumination-curated ... 6289865f72

https://www.eff.org/issues/copyright-trolls

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail ... 6a427145db

[ramseysounds]

But it really does just mean X.

Check the OP’s posts; a definite refx fixation

[chk071]

there's no reason why refx can't have a sensible contract. or why people should have to accept without question that something written down that claims to have the support of law should be ignored because "that's not how it should be interpreted". lawyers are paid to lawyer for a reason.

It would be great if people would understand what's written in there, before interpreting it in their way.

As I wrote: In case of doubt: Contact refx.

Although I really don't see the point, when, again, thousands of hit records are made with Nexus on a daily base. They're all breaking the user agreement? I doubt it.

I'll admit that the phrasing is mistakable, but, again, it really can't be meant that way.

[chk071]

Vengeance-Sound had a similar wording, and, it simply meant that you're not supposed to take the samples and sell it as if they were your own (i.e. you created them).

Nothing to see here really.

[gaggle of hermits]

As I wrote: In case of doubt: Contact refx.

one day, you'll actually get the point.

it may not matter what refx thinks or thought when they drafted the eula - in what is a highly litigious field at the best of times. but it's up to them to make the small fix it requires. not the customers or anyone else.

[Digivolt]

It means if you bought the licence, you use it personally. No sharing software. Come on

If you are to read it by the letter though it means you can't collab with a mate in the studio unless he leaves the room while you use Nexus if he doesn't have his own license for Nexus

[noiseboyuk]

Has anyone ever been sued by reFX for commercial use of Nexus?

Conversely and mischeviously, did reFX ever have to remove patches that were copyrighted popular tunes?

[gaggle of hermits]

It means if you bought the licence, you use it personally. No sharing software. Come on

If you are to read it by the letter though it means you can't collab with a mate in the studio unless he leaves the room while you use Nexus if he doesn't have his own license for Nexus

it's funny because none of this is hard to fix.

synapse's licence, for comparison:

"You are granted a personal, non-exclusive, non-transferable and limited license to install and use the Software for the purposes set forth herein. If you are an entity, you may appoint one individual within your organization to have the right to use the Software under the terms of this License Agreement. This software, including all of it's components and any additional files included with the distribution, is protected by copyright law and international copyright treaties. The term of this license is perpetual, unless terminated under the conditions provided in the License Agreement. Except as provided in the agreement, you receive no rights to rent, lease, lend, copy, modify, market, transmit or reverse engineer the software, any component hereof, or any file provided with the distribution.

...In case a sound library is part of the purchased product, the following shall apply in addition to the EULA (Sound License Agreement):
The provided samples, instruments and presets can be used for commercial or non-commercial music and audio productions without the prior permission from Synapse Audio. When using presets which contain complex arrangements/melodies, and provided those presets are used without any modifications, the respective author of the preset has to be given credit."