reFX EULA

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:31 pm
chk071 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:08 pm As I wrote: In case of doubt: Contact refx.
one day, you'll actually get the point.

it may not matter what refx thinks or thought when they drafted the eula - in what is a highly litigious field at the best of times. but it's up to them to make the small fix it requires. not the customers or anyone else.
Then contact them, and suggest it to them, if you feel like the EULA states that you aren't supposed to do what you are supposed to do.

Maybe, one day, you'll actually get the point. Pea brain.

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:52 pm
Digivolt wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:36 pm
ramseysounds wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm It means if you bought the licence, you use it personally. No sharing software. Come on
If you are to read it by the letter though it means you can't collab with a mate in the studio unless he leaves the room while you use Nexus if he doesn't have his own license for Nexus :hihi:

it's funny because none of this is hard to fix.

synapse's licence, for comparison:
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Someones got too much time on his / her / their hands 🤦‍♂️
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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ramseysounds wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:19 pm Someones got too much time on his / her / their hands 🤦‍♂️
...and yet, here you are.

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chk071 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:16 pm Pea brain.
I see the master of wit and repartee has returned.

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Both reFX and Vengenace's EULAs are rubbish, and that will never change for whatever reason. But as I've said a billion times now, the real world issue is never the potential to be sued by them for any normal use. The issue is in getting automated copyright strikes if you use their SQs or melodic ARPs unmodified - same as any other synth with such patches.
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i'm impressed you bothered to read The reFX EULA

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Was the reFX EULA different before Nexus 3 and 4? If so, what was different? If you still use Nexus 2, does the current version of the reFX EULA apply to you?

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The reFX EULA reads as follows: "You agree to indemnify, defend and hold Us and Our partners, lawyers, staff, affiliates, successors and assigns (collectively, “Affiliated Parties”) harmless from any liability, loss, claim and expense, including reasonable legal fees, related to Your violation of this Agreement or use of the Licenced Materials."

Does this mean that if there is a copyright infringement on the part of reFX Audio Software Inc. as for the Licenced Materials, then the user (licensee) will be responsible for this (not reFX Audio Software Inc.) if they use the Licenced Materials related to the copyright infringement?

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Indemnification is not only about copyright claims. You should seek legal advise from an attorney if you believe that this term in the ReFX terms and conditions may affect you personally or your business.

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The reFX EULA reads as follows: "Under the Licence you may not and shall not, without Our express written authorization: [...] 6. create derivative works of, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, adapt, translate, transmit, arrange, modify, copy, bundle, sell, sublicense, export, merge, transfer, adapt, loan, rent, lease, assign, share, outsource, host, publish, make available to any person or otherwise use, either directly or indirectly, the Licenced Materials;"

Does this mean that the user (licensee) is not allowed to modify the presets sold by reFX Audio Software Inc. without such an authorization? Is the user allowed to turn the knobs without such an authorization?

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Can reFX Audio Software Inc. create a FAQ on their website explaining those clauses of the EULA that are not very clear for understanding?

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If you are trying to make music commercially (for a living). It's a good idea to understand copyright and licensing. Hire a lawyer for a quick crash course and record the meeting if you are confused. These people are selling items to be used to make music. The wording may seem a bit strange if you are unfamiliar with copyright law, but it usually means "use it yourself (the person who bought the license) and don't share it. Don't use it to make a sample library that you sell to other musicians for them to make music with". That's basically what every sample based (which have different rules than non sample based) product Eula says, and it's worth understanding enough about the law to know if someone is trying to go farther than this (which would be shaky legal ground.

Precedent does matter. A pile of samples that were created to be licensed to musicians to make their own music with, can't just sell that copyright and try to retroactively sue everyone that bought them and used them as intended.
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I think that it would be better to have some explanations and examples of the correct usage on www.refx.com. Some websites have such information in the form of FAQ. This can be very helpful and convenient.

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noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:58 pm Has anyone ever been sued by reFX for commercial use of Nexus?
Why are you asking only about commercial use?

BTW, issues can be resolved out of court, not even being disclosed to the wide public.

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User3 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:01 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:58 pm Has anyone ever been sued by reFX for commercial use of Nexus?
Why are you asking only about commercial use?

Because no company gives a shit (outside of cracking/warez) about what private use looks like on a personal scale. Are you new? Do you think you could learn about this stuff from some personal research? Do you think there may be youtube videos about EULAs and how to interpret them?

Just because a company has clunky EULA does not mean you are in imminent danger of being sued. Companies that sue their legit users (especially legit pro users) do not last long. reFX has been around for a while.

Do you think you could relax and find something else to pursue?

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