Softube Model 82
- KVRian
- 744 posts since 15 May, 2003 from R'lyeh
B101, like all of TAL's stuff sort of 'improves' on the original synth. There's a lot more you can do with it, but a lot more to 'go wrong' so to speak. Softube on the other hand, do them exactly by the book. Their Prophet 5, is only 5 voices, has all the features of the original synth and nothing more, same with the Juno, the MiniMoog, and the 101..
The 101 itself, just like the Juno, is one of Roland's good old 'this synth is so basic you CANT make it sound bad' models..
The 101 itself, just like the Juno, is one of Roland's good old 'this synth is so basic you CANT make it sound bad' models..
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- KVRAF
- 5572 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Great! If you don’t mind iLok…HOTF wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:53 am I did a quick demo of both of them. Here's a few thoughts : I find harder to get a bad sound out of M82 than B101. I feel like it's easiser to find sweet spots. They both sound excellent in general. B101 has far better/more presets. The sequencer worflow is better in B101 but I don't think I would ever use the internal sequencer in any of those synth. B101 has a bit more features. If pricing was the same I think I would go for the Tal but rn M82 is 50% cheaper so I think I will go with that.
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- KVRian
- 1104 posts since 11 Dec, 2020
Model 80 have some extras like vintage knob, detune on the unisson, pan spread, velocity, aftertouch.mothra wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:31 am B101, like all of TAL's stuff sort of 'improves' on the original synth. There's a lot more you can do with it, but a lot more to 'go wrong' so to speak. Softube on the other hand, do them exactly by the book. Their Prophet 5, is only 5 voices, has all the features of the original synth and nothing more, same with the Juno, the MiniMoog, and the 101..
I really hope Softube will release a version of the P10.
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- KVRist
- 434 posts since 27 Dec, 2021 from Nederland
i don't use the ST version anymore, only the TAL 101.
It sounds so freakin tight to me, just like it rolled down fresh from the factory lines.
It sounds so freakin tight to me, just like it rolled down fresh from the factory lines.
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- KVRist
- 203 posts since 1 Jul, 2020
Tried both and I preferred model 82. Tal has extra features and I can best describe sounds and feels like a nice vst monosynth based on a SH-101.
Softube sounds and feels like I'm making patches on a SH-101
For the record I've owned and used hardware synths digital and analogue, hardware samplers and various Roland synths over the past 25+ years.
Something with the Softube model 82 and 84 really clicked with me. Could be the filters.
Im a huge fan of Tal sampler so by no means anti Tal. And I wanted to dislike the softube synths.. in fact I didn't even bother demoing them until recently because when I first saw them I thought "not another vst emulation"
Softube sounds and feels like I'm making patches on a SH-101
For the record I've owned and used hardware synths digital and analogue, hardware samplers and various Roland synths over the past 25+ years.
Something with the Softube model 82 and 84 really clicked with me. Could be the filters.
Im a huge fan of Tal sampler so by no means anti Tal. And I wanted to dislike the softube synths.. in fact I didn't even bother demoing them until recently because when I first saw them I thought "not another vst emulation"
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I'm very convinced of the Model 80 as well.discogsaddict wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:25 pm Tried both and I preferred model 82. Tal has extra features and I can best describe sounds and feels like a nice vst monosynth based on a SH-101.
Softube sounds and feels like I'm making patches on a SH-101
For the record I've owned and used hardware synths digital and analogue, hardware samplers and various Roland synths over the past 25+ years.
Something with the Softube model 82 and 84 really clicked with me. Could be the filters.
Im a huge fan of Tal sampler so by no means anti Tal. And I wanted to dislike the softube synths.. in fact I didn't even bother demoing them until recently because when I first saw them I thought "not another vst emulation"
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 24 Jul, 2006
Isn't that the purpose of the Gate+Trig / Gate / LFO switch? Ie, tal does both, ST doesn't.Vortifex wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:37 pm TAL 101's envelope behaviour is different to Model 82. When you set a slowish attack on the Model 82 with some VCF ENV applied and play some quick notes the transition is smooth, but the TAL 101 completely retriggers the attack, making it sound a bit stuttered. Can't remember which is the authentic behaviour but in this regard I prefer Model 82.
- KVRian
- 744 posts since 15 May, 2003 from R'lyeh
Same here. The two Roland synths I've owned besides my XV rack mount were the 106 and the 101. I love the TAL versions (uninstalled my Arturia JP-8 because TAL's gets used instead), but the Softubes feel like 'home' to me. Who knows, everybody's hardware sounded different anyways. If my neighbor owned a 106, his probably sounded like the Roland Cloud or something.discogsaddict wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:25 pm Tried both and I preferred model 82. Tal has extra features and I can best describe sounds and feels like a nice vst monosynth based on a SH-101.
Softube sounds and feels like I'm making patches on a SH-101
For the record I've owned and used hardware synths digital and analogue, hardware samplers and various Roland synths over the past 25+ years.
Something with the Softube model 82 and 84 really clicked with me. Could be the filters.
Im a huge fan of Tal sampler so by no means anti Tal. And I wanted to dislike the softube synths.. in fact I didn't even bother demoing them until recently because when I first saw them I thought "not another vst emulation"
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- KVRist
- 311 posts since 31 Oct, 2015
Models 8x sound better. Skeuomorphism plays a big role in that feeling. The scratches on model 84 alone make the sound more authentic.
Just kidding ofc but I wonder how the graphics impact the experience.
Just kidding ofc but I wonder how the graphics impact the experience.
- KVRist
- 301 posts since 30 Jun, 2016 from USA
$19 "account deal" on Model 82 right now until Feb 13th! This soft-synth is worth 19 bucks, right?
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- KVRAF
- 12083 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Only of you think you will use a simple synth like this…I got it on a previous sale and only realsed when this sale popped up that I have never used it…so is it cheap?2:43AM wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:47 pm $19 "account deal" on Model 82 right now until Feb 13th! This soft-synth is worth 19 bucks, right?
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Yeah, I passed and I love the Roland filter modeled in this.SLiC wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:00 pmOnly of you think you will use a simple synth like this…I got it on a previous sale and only realsed when this sale popped up that I have never used it…so is it cheap?2:43AM wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:47 pm $19 "account deal" on Model 82 right now until Feb 13th! This soft-synth is worth 19 bucks, right?
