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The only downside of going fully Silicon is that Osirus really isn't usable for me. I have to set latency so high (either in the plugin or through external factors) it's not playable - like 20ms total.

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Does anyone know if the Microwave XT emulator is still coming anytime soon, or have the developers abandoned that one?

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I doubt they’ve abandoned it. Bax is really committed to it. The last I saw, they had his XT torn apart and were analyzing it. He said they were actually pretty far along.

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I’m getting between 26 and 30 instances on a Ryzen 5950x and 30 + on a dual socket dual Xeon e5 2690 v4 rig with a crap Chinese motherboard here.

TS-12 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:37 am Tried Virus emulation, sounds amazing but CPU usage is astronomical

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Scotty wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:42 am I’m getting between 26 and 30 instances on a Ryzen 5950x and 30 + on a dual socket dual Xeon e5 2690 v4 rig with a crap Chinese motherboard here.

TS-12 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:37 am Tried Virus emulation, sounds amazing but CPU usage is astronomical
I'm on 10-core M1 Max MacBook Pro
Main Computer Specs: MacBook M1 Max, 32GB, 4TB, Cubase 13.

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My i9 MacBook Pro can run a lot of instances. Might be an M1 thing.

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Uncle E wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:03 am My i9 MacBook Pro can run a lot of instances. Might be an M1 thing.
has to be a code optimisation thing on ARM - the m1 max 10 cores runs rings around the 9980HK both on single-thread and multi-thread workloads : https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/45 ... -i9-9980HK

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Synthetic benchmarks can be quite wrong, I have run real world rests with my dual socket Xeon e5 2690 v4 vs my overclocked Ryzen 5950x both configured with RME Raydats at the same latency settings. The Ryzen should out perform the dual socket rig but it doesn’t for audio. I ve stress tested them extensively using mixed workloads loading the same projects. I’ve done this with Cubase 12 and 13 and with Reason. Both run the same windows updates and have the same optimizations as described by pictus. The synthetic benchmarks are in the ballpark and useful but not bang on in my experience at least as far as audio is concerned.

jdnz wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 am

has to be a code optimisation thing on ARM - the m1 max 10 cores runs rings around the 9980HK both on single-thread and multi-thread workloads : https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/45 ... -i9-9980HK

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64 instances and all unison (x8) playing 4 chords each on r9 7950x

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Can you share the preset you used and the latency settings of your audio card. I’d like to see what my my rigs can do with the same preset. On my stress test I was stacking 8 notes of polyphony adding one note each beat at 120 BPM, I did this for all instances, as soon as a drop out occurred I considered it failed. I’ll check to see which preset I used. I can’t recall now but i was consistent. I’m on the road and will share specifics later.
Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:45 am 64 instances and all unison (x8) playing 4 chords each on r9 7950x

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Scotty wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:42 am I’m getting between 26 and 30 instances on a Ryzen 5950x and 30 + on a dual socket dual Xeon e5 2690 v4 rig with a crap Chinese motherboard here.

TS-12 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:37 am Tried Virus emulation, sounds amazing but CPU usage is astronomical
Using the wavetable oscillators with 8x unison and long release time?

Obviously, I can also run single instances with very simple sounds, but, that quickly stops when I bring on the really demanding stuff.

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Scotty wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:13 pm Can you share the preset you used and the latency settings of your audio card. I’d like to see what my my rigs can do with the same preset. On my stress test I was stacking 8 notes of polyphony adding one note each beat at 120 BPM, I did this for all instances, as soon as a drop out occurred I considered it failed. I’ll check to see which preset I used. I can’t recall now but i was consistent. I’m on the road and will share specifics later.
Lbdunequest wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:45 am 64 instances and all unison (x8) playing 4 chords each on r9 7950x
Its a generic preset, all saws 1.2.3+sub oscillators set to unison at 8 :) as far as i recall ill need to check it, i did this testing quite a long time ago, i hope my memory serves right that its a unison 8, will let you know when im home to confirm :)

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I’ll be home in a week and come back post with some details. Some of these processors do better if you hit them harder , at times it seems to activate more cores and transfer the load around a bit … pure speculation

chk071 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:32 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:42 am I’m getting between 26 and 30 instances on a Ryzen 5950x and 30 + on a dual socket dual Xeon e5 2690 v4 rig with a crap Chinese motherboard here.

TS-12 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:37 am Tried Virus emulation, sounds amazing but CPU usage is astronomical
Using the wavetable oscillators with 8x unison and long release time?

Obviously, I can also run single instances with very simple sounds, but, that quickly stops when I bring on the really demanding stuff.

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It struck me as a bit weird, as it seems to work OK on CPUs which are comparable, performance wise, to my CPU.

The crackles usually happen here with the wavetable oscillators, when I use a lot of unison voices. More basic sounds work fine, but, if the synth gets demanding, it can produce crackles, with a single instance.

The Virus C and microQ emulations work fine, even with several instances.

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Vavra doesn’t seem to optimized as well as Osiris.

chk071 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 pm It struck me as a bit weird, as it seems to work OK on CPUs which are comparable, performance wise, to my CPU.

The crackles usually happen here with the wavetable oscillators, when I use a lot of unison voices. More basic sounds work fine, but, if the synth gets demanding, it can produce crackles, with a single instance.

The Virus C and microQ emulations work fine, even with several instances.

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