TAL-Pha Released! Alpha Juno II Emulation from TAL-Software

[chk071]

I like the jx-8p even less .
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The filters somehow sound similar. Bit of a harsh "digital" touch to them, with higher resonance settings.

And, then wghen I do a Google search, I find out that they have the same filter chip. Well modelled in software then, I guess, if you can hear the similarities.

[[nx]]

Just bought it, very cool that TAL tackled the IR3R05, it sounds incredible. Hopefully he'll keep building on it and well see a TAL-JX sometime. Wishful thinking aside, I'm pleasantly surprised with this and looking forward to exploring it more!

[chk071]

Idea: How about Patrick puts in all the stuff he developed so far (Juno, Jupiter, Juno Alpha filters) in a more sophisticated synth, with more envelopes, LFOs and all that, unison, with more voices, calls it TAL-Noisemaker 2, and puts a 99 € price tag on it? I might actually be in the market for such a thing.

[sacer]

Idea: How about Patrick puts in all the stuff he developed so far (Juno, Jupiter, Juno Alpha filters) in a more sophisticated synth, with more envelopes, LFOs and all that, unison, with more voices, calls it TAL-Noisemaker 2, and puts a 99 € price tag on it? I might actually be in the market for such a thing.

It’s called Tal-Mod, you have to check it out.
You can rebuild a lot of other synths like jx-3p, sh2, and even uad polymax, but without unisono or stereo panning.

But I am with you - there should be a Tal - mod 2 with modules from alpha, juno60, Jupiter, sh-101 and maybe a Tal sampler as alternative OSC

[chk071]

Idea: How about Patrick puts in all the stuff he developed so far (Juno, Jupiter, Juno Alpha filters) in a more sophisticated synth, with more envelopes, LFOs and all that, unison, with more voices, calls it TAL-Noisemaker 2, and puts a 99 € price tag on it? I might actually be in the market for such a thing.

It’s called Tal-Mod, you have to check it out.

I'm not into jacks and cables unfortunately.

[osofaux]

Okay, here's a question for y'all. Can you point to an example sound on this thing that we haven't really heard before? I'm not asking for the moon on a stick, it can be relatively subtle (though not to the point of being imperceptably subtle), but something uniquely Alpha Junoish that is done here notably better than anywhere else?

This is all subjective of course, but among the factory presets, two that stand out the most to me are "Velo-Reso" and "CosmoSweep." Audio examples of these from Synthmania:

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... -Reso1.mp3

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... oSweep.mp3

I think these two patches kind of encapsulate the ways the Alpha can sound distinct. Velo-Reso has a smooth, airy roundness to it that I haven't been able to capture with any other synth I've tried up to this point. Redominator falls flat with this one. Even Diva with its AJ modules fails to capture it exactly. CosmoSweep demonstrates the Alpha's filter resonance, and there again, there is something unique about it that I don't really have the expertise to pinpoint in technical terms. But I do know it is the only synth that has this filter besides the JX-8P/10 and the last rev. of the MKS-80.

Also, the Alpha's timpani patch sounds very distinctive, of all things:

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... 0Timps.mp3

This and Velo-Reso can be heard here in Propaganda's 80's classic "p: Machinery" at the 2:22 mark:



Not everyone is going to like these types of sounds or find them useful, but that's not really the point I'm trying to make with this example. The point I am trying to make is that when you recognize some of the unique timbres an Alpha can make, they can really jump out at you when you hear them in songs. And I'm not just talking about presets, I mean the tonality in general.

But that's only when you stray off the beaten path as far as patch programming goes. For basic synth duties, the Alpha is not going to give you anything its more famous siblings can't, or any other synth for that matter. It can do basses, pads, and leads with aplomb and it sounds great, but not in a way that sets it apart. It can blend in with other synths and you'd never know what it was. And that's not always a bad thing.

Where the Alpha really distinguishes itself, I believe, is when you go outside the lines a bit into the territory Eric Persing went when creating some of its more unusual patches. Patches that don't really have a real world equivalent as far as real instruments go. (What's a 'Velo-Reso'?) Bleeps, bloops, and sweeps. This thing can do sweeps that have an almost otherworldy quality.

I realize all synths have aspects of their sound that are distinctive in their own way, but these are some examples of why the Alpha stands out to me. YMMV.

[Nug Wrangler]

Anyone who owns Redominator compare to TAL-PHA ?

I have redominator, but havern't compared - Redominator hasn't pleased me as analog emulation, i remember it as worse emulation. The new Tal realy sounds great - so i don't have to compare them.
Ok i 've opened up redominator and listened some presets, it sounds like refx vanguard or other 20 year old VST - not comparable to Tal pha - and no need to rebuild a redominator preset in Tal, it's a big difference. If you compare Tal to roland cloud, they sound very very close, but there is no comparison

Thank you. I will go for TAL-PHA then

[Vortifex]

It’s called Tal-Mod, you have to check it out.
You can rebuild a lot of other synths like jx-3p, sh2, and even uad polymax, but without unisono or stereo panning.

TAL-Mod does have unison and stereo panning.

[egbert101]

This is all subjective of course, but among the factory presets, two that stand out the most to me are "Velo-Reso" and "CosmoSweep." Audio examples of these from Synthmania:

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... -Reso1.mp3

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... oSweep.mp3

I think these two patches kind of encapsulate the ways the Alpha can sound distinct. Velo-Reso has a smooth, airy roundness to it that I haven't been able to capture with any other synth I've tried up to this point. Redominator falls flat with this one. Even Diva with its AJ modules fails to capture it exactly. CosmoSweep demonstrates the Alpha's filter resonance, and there again, there is something unique about it that I don't really have the expertise to pinpoint in technical terms. But I do know it is the only synth that has this filter besides the JX-8P/10 and the last rev. of the MKS-80.

Also, the Alpha's timpani patch sounds very distinctive, of all things:

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... 0Timps.mp3

This and Velo-Reso can be heard here in Propaganda's 80's classic "p: Machinery" at the 2:22 mark:



Not everyone is going to like these types of sounds or find them useful, but that's not really the point I'm trying to make with this example. The point I am trying to make is that when you recognize some of the unique timbres an Alpha can make, they can really jump out at you when you hear them in songs. And I'm not just talking about presets, I mean the tonality in general.

But that's only when you stray off the beaten path as far as patch programming goes. For basic synth duties, the Alpha is not going to give you anything its more famous siblings can't, or any other synth for that matter. It can do basses, pads, and leads with aplomb and it sounds great, but not in a way that sets it apart. It can blend in with other synths and you'd never know what it was. And that's not always a bad thing.

Where the Alpha really distinguishes itself, I believe, is when you go outside the lines a bit into the territory Eric Persing went when creating some of its more unusual patches. Patches that don't really have a real world equivalent as far as real instruments go. (What's a 'Velo-Reso'?) Bleeps, bloops, and sweeps. This thing can do sweeps that have an almost otherworldy quality.

I realize all synths have aspects of their sound that are distinctive in their own way, but these are some examples of why the Alpha stands out to me. YMMV.

Great post. Falls on deaf ears though.

[chk071]

Some really nice sweeps on this indeed.

[Sinisterbr]

It’s called Tal-Mod, you have to check it out.
You can rebuild a lot of other synths like jx-3p, sh2, and even uad polymax, but without unisono or stereo panning.

TAL-Mod does have unison and stereo panning.

... Per oscillator!

[osofaux]

Great post. Falls on deaf ears though.

Thank you. I understand not everyone sees or hears things the same way though, so that's okay too.

[perpetual3]

Not sure why you say it falls on deaf ears. Unless to intentionally meant to slap a collective dis on the forum.

This is all subjective of course, but among the factory presets, two that stand out the most to me are "Velo-Reso" and "CosmoSweep." Audio examples of these from Synthmania:

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... -Reso1.mp3

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... oSweep.mp3

I think these two patches kind of encapsulate the ways the Alpha can sound distinct. Velo-Reso has a smooth, airy roundness to it that I haven't been able to capture with any other synth I've tried up to this point. Redominator falls flat with this one. Even Diva with its AJ modules fails to capture it exactly. CosmoSweep demonstrates the Alpha's filter resonance, and there again, there is something unique about it that I don't really have the expertise to pinpoint in technical terms. But I do know it is the only synth that has this filter besides the JX-8P/10 and the last rev. of the MKS-80.

Also, the Alpha's timpani patch sounds very distinctive, of all things:

https://www.synthmania.com/Roland%20Alp ... 0Timps.mp3

This and Velo-Reso can be heard here in Propaganda's 80's classic "p: Machinery" at the 2:22 mark:



Not everyone is going to like these types of sounds or find them useful, but that's not really the point I'm trying to make with this example. The point I am trying to make is that when you recognize some of the unique timbres an Alpha can make, they can really jump out at you when you hear them in songs. And I'm not just talking about presets, I mean the tonality in general.

But that's only when you stray off the beaten path as far as patch programming goes. For basic synth duties, the Alpha is not going to give you anything its more famous siblings can't, or any other synth for that matter. It can do basses, pads, and leads with aplomb and it sounds great, but not in a way that sets it apart. It can blend in with other synths and you'd never know what it was. And that's not always a bad thing.

Where the Alpha really distinguishes itself, I believe, is when you go outside the lines a bit into the territory Eric Persing went when creating some of its more unusual patches. Patches that don't really have a real world equivalent as far as real instruments go. (What's a 'Velo-Reso'?) Bleeps, bloops, and sweeps. This thing can do sweeps that have an almost otherworldy quality.

I realize all synths have aspects of their sound that are distinctive in their own way, but these are some examples of why the Alpha stands out to me. YMMV.

Great post. Falls on deaf ears though.

[hurricaneaudiolab]

Love the sound and layout, however, if I could offer a feature suggestion - could you add something like TAL-Sampler's color customization feature? Love the synth, but the classic Juno-y color scheme just kind of throws me off. I really wish this came with an alternate grey skin, something like this (quick photoshop job):

alphagrey.jpg

[noiseboyuk]

Hello mate. Maybe you'll spot something in my little TAL-Pha video that piques your interest in it?

Ello Matt! Triffic video, thanks. Probably not quite enough to sway me, but I can see the appeal.