What limiter are u using?

[Jac459]

Forgot to mention how to use the two presets. First load the Pre-clipping Glue preset, set it so that it does all the heavy lifting. Don't be afraid to push it way into -6dB or more of gain reduction. It's slow so it will not easily distort. Then follow that instance with the Final Clipping preset and use that very sparingly. Usually you only need about 2 or 3 dB of gain for a good mix to hit -8 LUFS. If you have a compromised mix you can still hit -10 LUFS with this combo very easily.

If you want slightly more loudness and movement then shorten the release of the first Pro-L2 instance. A typical range would be between 3s and 10s. Anything faster than that can yield too hectic and distorting results.

As a bonus, you may not even need a masterbus "glue" compressor as the first instance of Pro-L2 does that part very well.

Thanks a lot for such interesting insights.
How would you compare Pro L2 vs the limiter of Ozone 11?

[bmanic]

Forgot to mention how to use the two presets. First load the Pre-clipping Glue preset, set it so that it does all the heavy lifting. Don't be afraid to push it way into -6dB or more of gain reduction. It's slow so it will not easily distort. Then follow that instance with the Final Clipping preset and use that very sparingly. Usually you only need about 2 or 3 dB of gain for a good mix to hit -8 LUFS. If you have a compromised mix you can still hit -10 LUFS with this combo very easily.

If you want slightly more loudness and movement then shorten the release of the first Pro-L2 instance. A typical range would be between 3s and 10s. Anything faster than that can yield too hectic and distorting results.

As a bonus, you may not even need a masterbus "glue" compressor as the first instance of Pro-L2 does that part very well.

Thanks a lot for such interesting insights.
How would you compare Pro L2 vs the limiter of Ozone 11?

I don't own Ozone so I have no idea. I did have Ozone back in the day, like version 3 or 4 and back then the limiter was absolutely excellent. I suspect it couldn't have gotten worse.. so it's probably excellent. I know the guy who programmed it is a certified genius. He sometimes posted over at gearspace.

I don't think there are any inherently "bad" limiters any more. They are all mostly excellent and thus fall under subjective preference.

The reason why I use Thimeo Stereotool is simply because of it's incredible flexibility. However, when I just need some individual tracks or busses limited or very quick and easy setup for a demo track, I usually end up using either Pro-L2 or Sonible Smart Limit. In some very rare occasions when I need to have proper multiband processing, then I use DMG Audio Limitless, which is excellent for very complex or compromised material.

[Jac459]

Forgot to mention how to use the two presets. First load the Pre-clipping Glue preset, set it so that it does all the heavy lifting. Don't be afraid to push it way into -6dB or more of gain reduction. It's slow so it will not easily distort. Then follow that instance with the Final Clipping preset and use that very sparingly. Usually you only need about 2 or 3 dB of gain for a good mix to hit -8 LUFS. If you have a compromised mix you can still hit -10 LUFS with this combo very easily.

If you want slightly more loudness and movement then shorten the release of the first Pro-L2 instance. A typical range would be between 3s and 10s. Anything faster than that can yield too hectic and distorting results.

As a bonus, you may not even need a masterbus "glue" compressor as the first instance of Pro-L2 does that part very well.

Thanks a lot for such interesting insights.
How would you compare Pro L2 vs the limiter of Ozone 11?

I don't own Ozone so I have no idea. I did have Ozone back in the day, like version 3 or 4 and back then the limiter was absolutely excellent. I suspect it couldn't have gotten worse.. so it's probably excellent. I know the guy who programmed it is a certified genius. He sometimes posted over at gearspace.

I don't think there are any inherently "bad" limiters any more. They are all mostly excellent and thus fall under subjective preference.

The reason why I use Thimeo Stereotool is simply because of it's incredible flexibility. However, when I just need some individual tracks or busses limited or very quick and easy setup for a demo track, I usually end up using either Pro-L2 or Sonible Smart Limit. In some very rare occasions when I need to have proper multiband processing, then I use DMG Audio Limitless, which is excellent for very complex or compromised material.

Thanks mate, appreciate your expert views.

Indeed, I lack comparison point but I really like the sound (or transparency).

[legendCNCD]

Ozone 11 maximizer has the delta listen function now, very handy for deciding which algo one should use etc.
Ozone Vintage Limiter just kissing it -> Maximizer doing rest works really nicely too.

[wakax]

only 3...
depends of the case.

for live acts and quick mastering (not transparent):

Maxhead by Aqusmatic
https://aqusmatiq.com/

Boost by Ursa DSP
https://deviousmachines.com/product/ursadsp-boost/

for finetuning (transparent):

Elephant by Voxengo
https://www.voxengo.com/product/elephant/features/

[Vortifex]

..

[worldfever]

newfangled audio elevate, sometimes L2, for live ableton limiter

[Lesha]

If you want transparent limiting / preserving dynamics nothing beats Voxengo Elephant.

[Daru925]

YES

[whassup]

YES

[Samiver]

Forgot to mention how to use the two presets. First load the Pre-clipping Glue preset, set it so that it does all the heavy lifting. Don't be afraid to push it way into -6dB or more of gain reduction. It's slow so it will not easily distort. Then follow that instance with the Final Clipping preset and use that very sparingly. Usually you only need about 2 or 3 dB of gain for a good mix to hit -8 LUFS. If you have a compromised mix you can still hit -10 LUFS with this combo very easily.

If you want slightly more loudness and movement then shorten the release of the first Pro-L2 instance. A typical range would be between 3s and 10s. Anything faster than that can yield too hectic and distorting results.

As a bonus, you may not even need a masterbus "glue" compressor as the first instance of Pro-L2 does that part very well.

Thanks a lot for such interesting insights.
How would you compare Pro L2 vs the limiter of Ozone 11?

I don't own Ozone so I have no idea. I did have Ozone back in the day, like version 3 or 4 and back then the limiter was absolutely excellent. I suspect it couldn't have gotten worse.. so it's probably excellent. I know the guy who programmed it is a certified genius. He sometimes posted over at gearspace.

I don't think there are any inherently "bad" limiters any more. They are all mostly excellent and thus fall under subjective preference.

The reason why I use Thimeo Stereotool is simply because of it's incredible flexibility. However, when I just need some individual tracks or busses limited or very quick and easy setup for a demo track, I usually end up using either Pro-L2 or Sonible Smart Limit. In some very rare occasions when I need to have proper multiband processing, then I use DMG Audio Limitless, which is excellent for very complex or compromised material.

Just wanted to say thank you to bmanic for sharing his Pro L2 presets. I am very much a hobbyist with a few years under my belt and with them i actually got a fairly competitive loudness without it distorting into mush in my last track.

appreciated, thank you

[ChanceB]

Ozone 11 or Sonible smart limit or Maximus sometimes but mostly Ozone

[simon.a.billington]

For quick and dirty I'll just use Logic's Limiter/Adaptive Limiter. They're low latency and keeps me focused on the music.

Once the initial idea is down and I've reached the production phase I like to go with the "best sounding" choice depending on the context. So it can be highly subjective. I have a quick way to audition limiters, well plugins in general, and that's generally how I'll approach it if I have the time. I tend to focus on the most important elements and go from there.

I could end up using any number of these in a given context...

Waves L1, bx_limiter, IK Brickwall, Ozone Vintage Limiter, IK Stealth, IK Quad Limiter, IK Classic Multiband Limiter, Ozone Maximizer, Waves C6 (technically not a limiter)