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BONES wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:18 pm
machinesworking wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:22 pmIMO groups in general have periods where they're creative and have solidified their sound into something coherent, but aren't desperate yet and trying to bland out their sound for the masses.
I don't think that's how it goes at all. I don't find much creativity in old Industrial music. They were just doing the best they could with the tools at their disposal. As the tools got better, it allowed them to do what they had probably wanted to do from the get-go. Die Krupps certainly never blanded out and by the release of The Crackdown, the Cabs had ceased being Industrial, long before they went completely to shit. Portion Control never blanded out, either, it just took them 30 years to put out anything worth listening to.
IMO that pattern is consistent, but not always the case. In general music is a matter of taste, but hardly anyone who likes some group like Pink Floyd thinks their early stuff was that great, and nobody really likes anything past the Wall half as much as their middle period. Whether you like them or not their biggest selling records are also the ones I think are any good. Some groups come out full blast, but I would say for you, groups doing embryonic styles like Industrial were too experimental right away. You're not alone, a lot of people prefer Industrial as a flavor, or the sub genres of it like EBM, Electro Industrial etc. I like a good amount of experimental music, so early Industrial is something I will put on every once in a while.

(Cabaret Voltaire's) early stuff is mostly just noise and their later stuff is just dance music, they have a decent middle period.
That's pretty much how I see it and it's the middle period stuff that shows their original intent, I think, and it's better gear that allowed them to realise it. It was the same for me - I did the best I could with the equipment at my disposal, and my limited talent and skill, but it's only really been the last 25 years or so that I've been able to express myself the way I had always wanted to. That makes me realise that the other factor putting pressure on these artists would have been record companies. The Cabs were signed to Virgini and you can bet Virgin wanted to see results.
Don't get me wrong, I like some of their early stuff, Voice of America, Living Legends and 2x4 (the EP I think is named that?), I just also like Micro Phonies, Crackdown, Arm of the Lord etc. I'm not as into the later stuff, it sounds too radio friendly. You can clearly hear IMO the middle period as being a perfect balance between cut and paste dada noise and dance music. IMO Virgin didn't have a clue on what to do with them, they should have been much bigger in the USA.

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It does not surprise me in the slightest that CV were never any bigger than they were. They may have adopted a slick sound that alienated their fans but they were never a commercial prospect. Groovy, Laidback and Nasty just sounds like two clueless idiots trying to capture whatever it is that makes commercial music successful, without the slightest idea what that might actually be. It's an album made by record executives, a cautionary tale for all of us.

"Experimental" is no excuse for being krap. These two songs are good examples. The first came out a full year earlier than the latter but sounds like it was years later. And it was ME's first album, as opposed to CV's 8th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXoVN-DCY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAeDzsy-xF4
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My father was an audio enthusiast. Alan Parsons, Tomita and so on were early companions. But I began to discover the world around me in the 80s and Synth Pop was all around back then. Despite of the usual suspects the "Neue Deutsche Welle" (NDW) definitely shaped my senses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQRaj1vcnrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q6ccOM ... ZN&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPOEuuc ... N&index=12

And as you can guess the voyage went on with all the new styles in the 90s. As I have lately discovered we were all strongly influenced by the local stars here in the Frankfurt Area. It were mostly the same people, often involved in different projects.

Sven Väth - Ralf Hildenbeutel - Alex Azary - Stevie B-Zet and so on (Harthouse, Elektrolux, ...).

And what was mainly a local phenomenon back then turns out to be a UNIQUE sound I that still influences me today. #noncommenrcial #soundoffrankfurt

But mainly #Hildenbeutel really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ7nEsMGchY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlbUyVY0qQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rs4aXy0ijM

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You might roll your eyes, but TIL this was the very first totally synthesized song. It's from 1939 and the music was done on a Novachord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWlelVf3l0Q

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Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke

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Everything changed after he Human League charted. I was heavily influenced by the San Francisco dance scene. Patrick Cowley was such a big name he got to remix I Feel Love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxfWz231vNM

He worked with Sylvester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFkUMhq_j_Y

And here's something I love and so retro you can't even match beats on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtG4HU_lRxk

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On a number of Macs

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BONES - Simple Minds 1980-1983 were absolutely sublime. As well as the Mick McNeil / Charlie Burchill double act, Derek Forbes was the greatest bass player with the greatest bass lines of all time. But yeah fair enough, an electronica thread so...

From age 10 to my current age of 110

Jean Michel Jarre
Isao Tomita
Kraftwerk
Cerrone
Space
Yellow Magic Orchestra
The Human League
Japan
Visage
Ultravox
New Musik
New Order
Simple Minds
Thomas Dolby
Scritti Politti
Art Of Noise
Propaganda
Frankie Goes To Hollywood
A-ha
The KLF
Technotronic
The Beloved
Janet Jackson
PNAU
Ladyhawke
Funkstorung
CSS
I Break Horses
La Roux
Metric
The Naked and Famous
School of Seven Bells
CVRCHES
Tegan & Sara
Computer Magic
Para One
Emilie Nicholas
Public Service Broadcasting
Fickle Friends
Christine and the Queens
Hania Rani
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Thank you for reminding me of Yellow Magic Orchestra.

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osiris wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:23 pm Thank you for reminding me of Yellow Magic Orchestra.
I'm still genuinely in mourning over the deaths of Riyuichi and Yukihiro.

They were such an odd band, but I loved them. The Japanese version of Multiplies is one of the oddest pop records ever made. Interspersed with sketches in English and Japanese there's new wave, ska, jingles and - of course - electronica. A disco cover appears and disappears no less than 3 times. Bonkers. Their follow up, BGM, was positively dour but contained the masterpiece that is 1,000 Knives and - allegedly - was the first recorded use of a TR-808.
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Here's some lesser known stuff In really enjoyed from back in the day:
Player One - Space Invaders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2lGJMrUUHw

Azul Y Negro - The Night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWxOFY2IuoM

Hilary - Kinetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZGYDxS_t-g

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