Is Pitch correction an effect?

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I've been watching the YouTube videos of Phil from Wings of Pegasus

He's been drilling into pitch correction lately. If you've watched them, you'll know that pitch correction is in A LOT of mainstream music, and he doesn't agree with it, and is not a true representation of the artist. For the most part I agree

One of the more recent video's he indicated that some people were telling him that pitch correction is nothing more than a reverb, or delay or any type devise. Really?
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Scoops wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:58 pm I've been watching the YouTube videos of Phil from Wings of Pegasus

He's been drilling into pitch correction lately. If you've watched them, you'll know that pitch correction is in A LOT of mainstream music, and he doesn't agree with it, and is not a true representation of the artist. For the most part I agree

One of the more recent video's he indicated that some people were telling him that pitch correction is nothing more than a reverb, or delay or any type devise. Really?
I would argue that pitch correction is by definition something that fixes an audio signal that is not correctly performed. In this sense it is not an effect like reverb or delay. However, changing pitch can be an effect like adding an extra octave to a signal that normally wouldn't have it for aesthetical reasons.
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You can use it as a correction/editing tool or as a creative fx when pushed into extremes.

Just like many many other audio processing techniques.

You can use simple time editing as corrective or you can chop shit up to rearrange it.

So, it can be a crutch, a tool or an fx.
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Ploki wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:48 pm
So, it can be a crutch, a tool or an fx.
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Ploki wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:48 pm You can use it as a correction/editing tool or as a creative fx when pushed into extremes.

Just like many many other audio processing techniques.

You can use simple time editing as corrective or you can chop shit up to rearrange it.

So, it can be a crutch, a tool or an fx.
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There's hardtune like Antares Autotune or Kerovee, that was very popular about 20 years ago. Actual pitch correction only I don't know much about but Melodyne has editors like that.

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OSC rules apply.
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These kind of thinking of "in music you should not use this or that" is so ... obsolete...

I am on the side of "we should use all the f**king tools we have to make the best music possible and stop creating ourselves philosophical limitations"...

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Jac459 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:15 pm "we should use all the f**king tools we have to make the best music possible and stop creating ourselves philosophical limitations"...
OK, but if your definition of the best possible music is: that which lets the singer's real personality, the singer's authentic existence (with their abilities and flaws), shine through?

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If it sounds good, it is good
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these standards are arbitrary and dont belong in a creative process, imo. free your mind from rules. who cares what tool is used. the final outcome is the goal. dont lose track of that. enjoy the process. if you like the sound of auto tune in some of your work use it if you don't, then dont use it. trust your ears and your heart. the ears will like what they like.
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My 2 cents: ask the same question about compressors ;)

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Monsieur_FyP wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:52 pm OK, but if your definition of the best possible music is: that which lets the singer's real personality, the singer's authentic existence (with their abilities and flaws), shine through?
If the best music in a specific case comes from the vocal performance you describe, great. And if the best music comes via 'transparent' or OTT use of pitch correction, great too!
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Pitch correction affects the audio signal surely?
But I agree with Ploki on those three uses.

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Pitch augmentation is a transform not an effect>>>

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