What Turns You On More: Producing Or Performing Live To An Audience?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3292 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
There is sure to be a significant number of people on KVR who have performed live on stage, just as I have in years gone by as well as being home/studio producers of music themselves, so I thought I'd throw this question out there for those who have and to reflect on how it affects them as artists and perhaps how they produce/write or perform for an audience, or whether they prefer the solitude of composing alone.
If you have never performed in front of an audience before, then I ask for those who have not, in whether that is your ultimate goal, or whether whatever you do create, is for your ears only and will forever be locked away in the vaults of horrors and to be only resurrected through an act of performing a séance for the undead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsTi3Yh ... l=KOSmusic
If you have never performed in front of an audience before, then I ask for those who have not, in whether that is your ultimate goal, or whether whatever you do create, is for your ears only and will forever be locked away in the vaults of horrors and to be only resurrected through an act of performing a séance for the undead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsTi3Yh ... l=KOSmusic
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- addled muppet weed
- 106511 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
my early "live sex show extreme industrial fetishism night" gigs, were probably my biggest turn ons in the music realm.
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- KVRAF
- 16659 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Definitely performing live. But paying gigs can be hard to come by and you pretty much need to produce to get gigs. And you need to perform to get your tracks noticed. Vicious cycle.
Things are a bit easier as a studio/side/utility musician, you just have to put up with a lot cringe work. I made pretty good money doing it but eventually got tired of it.
Things are a bit easier as a studio/side/utility musician, you just have to put up with a lot cringe work. I made pretty good money doing it but eventually got tired of it.
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325
- KVRian
- 814 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
Performing live, as you only get one take.
- KVRAF
- 16659 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It'd better be flawless...
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- KVRian
- 814 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
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- KVRAF
- 7901 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Are audiences really there any more?
It seems they're just a mob of selfie taking wannabe SM influencers now.
And if you get some that are actually there to see you, they're either caught in a karaoke sing along or yelling at you to play your old stuff.
The studio collaborations I used to do have all become racially motivated trying to prove they can't be that.
So self production is now the default. But even when I play the mixes for others, it engenders a hostility the moment they learn I do the entire thing myself.
So these days, it's just for me and the spouse. Record and archive.
It seems they're just a mob of selfie taking wannabe SM influencers now.
And if you get some that are actually there to see you, they're either caught in a karaoke sing along or yelling at you to play your old stuff.
The studio collaborations I used to do have all become racially motivated trying to prove they can't be that.
So self production is now the default. But even when I play the mixes for others, it engenders a hostility the moment they learn I do the entire thing myself.
So these days, it's just for me and the spouse. Record and archive.
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- KVRAF
- 8430 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
I do both but like the sound of live playing. I can't stand stiff mainstream albums, at least listening closely or when its early in the morning still.
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- KVRAF
- 16659 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Make synthesizer music with no vocals.
How can we be racist when all we do is think about race?The studio collaborations I used to do have all become racially motivated trying to prove they can't be that.
Make up a back story about how it's all done by you and your spouse (mainly your spouse, you're just there to look good). Worked for The White Stripes.So self production is now the default. But even when I play the mixes for others, it engenders a hostility the moment they learn I do the entire thing myself.
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- KVRAF
- 15535 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I enjoy both, thoroughly. However, I don't play live anymore because there are not opportunities that lie at the intersection of my age, skill, interest, willingness to work, and willingness to deal with other people.
I have thought a few times about trying to find two or three similar minded old blokes with average skill to form an average country/blues/rock band. I'd play bass, guitar, or sing as necessary. But, I inevitably find that people aren't content with playing in the basement for friends. When it becomes real work, I'm out. Music is, and has mostly always been, just a hobby for me.
What I really enjoy about playing live is the interaction with other players. It's hard to replicate that experience in the studio. I never enjoyed playing live solo very much, whether it's simple acoustic music or electronica. I still do the former at home with an audience of one whom I tend to make smile and there's never a phone involved. I sometimes do the latter as well, but I would never release either as a finished "live" performance. I like them, warts and all, but the acoustic numbers are just me enjoying myself and the electronica always needs production. Sometimes I do that, mostly I just enjoy the experience for me.
I have thought a few times about trying to find two or three similar minded old blokes with average skill to form an average country/blues/rock band. I'd play bass, guitar, or sing as necessary. But, I inevitably find that people aren't content with playing in the basement for friends. When it becomes real work, I'm out. Music is, and has mostly always been, just a hobby for me.
What I really enjoy about playing live is the interaction with other players. It's hard to replicate that experience in the studio. I never enjoyed playing live solo very much, whether it's simple acoustic music or electronica. I still do the former at home with an audience of one whom I tend to make smile and there's never a phone involved. I sometimes do the latter as well, but I would never release either as a finished "live" performance. I like them, warts and all, but the acoustic numbers are just me enjoying myself and the electronica always needs production. Sometimes I do that, mostly I just enjoy the experience for me.
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- KVRAF
- 2329 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Health precludes me from live gigging last few years, maybe that will change. I prefer live gigs x100. Barely exaggerating. I like making noise at home more than most any other thing i could do, though.
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if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
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- KVRAF
- 7901 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Sounds like you get it.
We actually now do something between jazz fusion and a new age ambient with some occasional classical motifs. And the hostile listeners are usually guitarists that couldn't tell the guitars were played ala keyboard.
(It often reminds me of that old joke we used to tell in our music stores about how many guitarists it takes to screw in a light bulb.)
Funny thing is, I often play it for them in hopes we might collaborate on something before they get butt hurt and shut down.
And yeah, we do our best to just ignore the question of who the recording is before that.
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- Banned
- 580 posts since 27 May, 2023
there are still audiences but probably not so much for small to mid sized venues.
last time I performed live was a few years back maybe to 25000 people but that was a 12hr festival with lots of top line acts.
live performing is way more exciting than studio work. but I also record outside the studio for various projects and that can be great if the project invol es interesting people
live playing is just a whole order above tho
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- KVRAF
- 7901 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
What I was referring to though was that while the venue is full, there are far less people actively listening. It's more important to them in showing others they were there than actually "experiencing there".neverbefore wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:55 amthere are still audiences but probably not so much for small to mid sized venues.
last time I performed live was a few years back maybe to 25000 people but that was a 12hr festival with lots of top line acts.
live performing is way more exciting than studio work. but I also record outside the studio for various projects and that can be great if the project invol es interesting people
live playing is just a whole order above tho
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- KVRian
- 814 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
Right, they are not there to analyze every mistake you make on stage like an audition.