Rme ucx2 cubase
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- KVRer
- 28 posts since 22 Feb, 2024
hello, I'm sorry if I don't post where I should, I'm new to the site and I hope it won't be considered as spam what I'm posting, on a certain forum I was banned for this topic. I have a problem with this audio interface, "rme ucx2" I'll tell you what the problem is: I tried to sample some string instruments from motyf xs in cubase, I recorded note by note at 96khz 32bit, the problem is that the sound played after recording no longer has the same quality and lacks details, it is no longer audible as pleasant as it sounds when I play directly from motyf on the same audio interface, the same monitors, for example I press the note C3 on motyf, I record it in cubase, after that I play in cubase and make a very big difference between what is heard from the keyboard and what is hear from what I recorded in cubase, when I record I don't use any effect, eq, compressor or anything else neither in cubase on track or master nor in totalmix in ucx, the same thing happens when I record voice or instrument, in direct monitoring it sounds very well, the problem is when playing the recording from cubase. what could be the problem? ucx2, cubase, Windows 7 64 bit operating system. I sampled those instruments from motyf directly in korg pa4 and it sounds very good, almost the same as in motyf. thank you
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 22 Feb, 2024
I don't know how to do it, where can I upload some recorded notes?, anyway, you don't notice the difference in sound if you don't have a motiff with you. the sound is not bad, distorted or with background noise, it's just that it doesn't sound like in the motif, it does very different. I don't want the recorded sound or the voice to be heard exactly like in motyf, the recorded instrument to be heard exactly like the original, but I want the rme to be as close as possible to the original. Is it possible that the problem is cubase or windows? .thank you
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- KVRAF
- 7115 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
First thing that come to mind is
- loudness monitoring compared to playback
- ears perceive louder as more pleasent, usually
- so be particular about that when listening
Next would be if recording is making it mono, instead of stereo. Also changes how we perceive it.
About posting attachements, go to full editor, if not already.
- at bottom there are options to upload various formats
- a tab says Attachements and Add files(max 1 MiB)
Wav files are large, especially 96k, but export to 16-bit 44k or something, maybe even do mp3.
- loudness monitoring compared to playback
- ears perceive louder as more pleasent, usually
- so be particular about that when listening
Next would be if recording is making it mono, instead of stereo. Also changes how we perceive it.
About posting attachements, go to full editor, if not already.
- at bottom there are options to upload various formats
- a tab says Attachements and Add files(max 1 MiB)
Wav files are large, especially 96k, but export to 16-bit 44k or something, maybe even do mp3.
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- KVRAF
- 2609 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
The interface has effects, so those could be affecting the sound when played live yet not the recorded one. You could also get a chorus type effect in the mix software on an RME by monitoring the signal from the keyboard and the computer simultaneously. When just hearing computer playback it will sound different.
I believe every thread should devolve into character attacks and witch-burning. It really helps the discussion.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 22 Feb, 2024
thank you for your involvement and answer, I don't want to do anti-advertisement for rme or cubase, I've been working with them for many years, I had rme ucx1, now I have ucx2 with which I will work for a long time, I have genelec 8040b monitors, I like the sound quality of that's why I chose rme. I wanted to understand what's going on, maybe I'm not doing something right, it's possible that windows negatively affects the sound, maybe someone else noticed the difference between the directly monitored sound and the one played from the cubase recording, I work in the studio of over 16 years old, I have a little experience in the field, I've been playing the accordion since I was 5 years old and over 30 years on the keyboard. If I wasn't sure why I was doing and what I wanted, I wouldn't post this topic. I tested the sound from the cubase at the same volume with the one from the motif, I don't use and I didn't use when I recorded "simple" that instrument, effects from totalmix ucx2 and not from cubase or other plugins on the track or master, when I record I don't use any plugin, fx, eq, compressor or anything else .the instrument in the motif is a string, it is called ensmix, it consists of two different strings, one L the other - R for stereophonic, I recorded a stereo track with two similar cables, I use the best quality cables and plugs, I respected the exit from the motif when entering ucx, the result was not good, I entered the motif menu, I stopped one instrument at a time and recorded separately-L separately-R, I was not satisfied with the result. I really like that string instrument from the motif, I wanted to have it in the korg pa4 with which I sing at events. I recorded those strings separately L/R directly in the korg pa4, I assigned each wav to the notes and I'm very satisfied with how it sounds, I use it with love. you may wonder why I don't use it those strings from the motyf xf library for the native Kontakt instrument?, I didn't know it existed.I put a link with what I recorded
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 22 Feb, 2024
hello, I know that the subject is old, but I want to tell you that today I clarified the situation, and my doubt was confirmed, or better said the clear certainty, regarding the poor quality of the RME converters, both ucx and ucx 2, one more thing, I see ucx2 as less stable in the driver than ucx1. not a few times I started cubase and ucx2 remained without sound, with ucx this never happened to me, I speak knowingly, because I had ucx for many years and I have ucx2 3 years. today I received the new audio interface from prism sound lyra 2, I want to tell you that the sound difference is 5 times over ucx and ucx2, I'm not talking about other RME models because I didn't have them. I did loop tests with lyra2 and the sound is captured and reproduced almost one hundred percent with the original, it may suffer a small change but my ears do not hear this, however it loses a little of the stereophony, I can hear that. I did the same test and many other tests with ucx1 and ucx2 and there is a clear change in the sound, compared to the original sound, I would say worse by 20/30 to 100, dry consistency and medios. sorry I can't post the results of the tests done with ucx2 and lyra2 here. one more observation, since I changed the audiotehnica at 4033 microphone with a neumann u87 ai, the ucx2 sounded even worse, that put an end to it for me, I couldn't stand the situation the ucx2 put me in anymore, so I bought the lyra 2 and it seems that I made the right choice, I am perhaps too enthusiastic about the sound of the lyra2 because the difference between them seems enormous to me. If anyone has doubts about what I wrote, and is interested in clear evidence, I can send you the tests and comparisons made with the two interfaces , you can write me an email address here and I will send it to you. I greet you and I wish you success in what you do.
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- KVRian
- 614 posts since 26 Jun, 2016
Do you still have your UCX II?
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- KVRAF
- 4084 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
LOL psychoacoustics strikes again
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