Do Linux users tend to be somewhat paranoid?

[audiojunkie]

I’m not interested in fighting with people. I’m just trying to stifle misinformation. There are a lot of misconceptions about modern linux. Things are SO much better than the early days of Linux. The more people learn the truth about how things work with modern Linux, the less they will fear it. That is my goal.

[audiojunkie]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

Hoping you'll repost those points you made before editing without addressing a specific member. I found them valid and valuable.

I’m actually not aware of any edited or removed points. As far as I can tell, I can see all of my posts.

[BBFG#]

Yes, I found it. It was a previous post where I saw you edited a following post.
I am starting to believe it's in our better interest to just bullet point the information rather than address the derisions directly though.

It's far easier to build a computer and put Linux on it than it is to put an Apple OS on it.
I'm also unaware of any hardware keyboard/drum workstation that uses an Apple system. (Most are Linux.) And more and more supercomputer/servers are using Linux. Ironically, that kind of makes MSApple the luddites now.

[donkey tugger]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

This post - viewtopic.php?p=8856422#p8856422 could benefit from a paragraph break or two though...it's a bit 'experimental writer from the 1920s wall of text' stylee.

Look away for a second and you're lost!

[mevla]

Just off the top of my head, I'd suggest it's because he's a Live user and doesn't want to spend Dog knows how many hours/days/weeks/months porting all his songs across to a new DAW.

That's an important factor. I had nothing to cling on when starting to make music using the OS I used for work : Linux. People who have an array of VSTs they rely upon on Windows, worth thousands in investment will likely frown at the number of obstacles they could meet when considering a move to Linux, even on a dual boot system. But that constitutes no argument regarding how Linux can accommodate audio production, it's their personal point of view.

And if they actually rely on audio production to make a living then they simply wouldn't mess with the current working and familiar setup they have. When money revenues comes at play, like with a large number of companies - not mentioning the military - what works is what works until there's a dire need to change.

[mevla]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

This post - viewtopic.php?p=8856422#p8856422 could benefit from a paragraph break or two though...it's a bit 'experimental writer from the 1920s wall of text' stylee.

Look away for a second and you're lost!

He he, I found the same. Look at the cup of tea to take a sip and ... where was I ?

So I copy/pasted the text into emacs and added line breaks here and there.

[audiojunkie]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

This post - viewtopic.php?p=8856422#p8856422 could benefit from a paragraph break or two though...it's a bit 'experimental writer from the 1920s wall of text' stylee.

Look away for a second and you're lost!

I don’t doubt it. But recognize that I typed it all on the phone while sitting in my living room with two daughters (and their tablets) and a cat sitting on me. The only difference between this and a typewriter is that I can backspace. I’m lucky I was as even able to put together a coherent thought.

[mevla]

I don’t doubt it. But recognize that I typed it all on the phone while sitting in my living room with two daughters (and their tablets) and a cat sitting on me. The only difference between this and a typewriter is that I can backspace. I’m lucky I was as even able to put together a coherent thought.

It's all valid good technical points although as donkey tugger mentioned, not sure at all if it was worth : bullet points would have been 'snappier'. And add the wall of text to that and it's enough to discourage many

[donkey tugger]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

This post - viewtopic.php?p=8856422#p8856422 could benefit from a paragraph break or two though...it's a bit 'experimental writer from the 1920s wall of text' stylee.

Look away for a second and you're lost!

I don’t doubt it. But recognize that I typed it all on the phone while sitting in my living room with two daughters (and their tablets) and a cat sitting on me. The only difference between this and a typewriter is that I can backspace. I’m lucky I was as even able to put together a coherent thought.

Get the cat to proofread it.

[glokraw]

You simply have no consistent GlibC version across the distributions. You do not have any consistent way to deliver Software to Linux at all. Linux at the desktop is highly inconsistent by design.

The whole point of distributions and libs is to massively increase the ability to have your own desired computer experience, as opposed to a pair of corporate roll-outs. With mac/win, you're stuck with what they give you, and enhancements* you add. Choice of 'distributions' is limited to to a dozen or so versions, aging between dire insecurity, and corporate data harvesting.

*Glad that there are so many capabilities and options for all musicians,
and that linux users can use many of the best, among such numerous choices.

I doubt glibc issues have effected music production. With linux, it's trivial to run multiple and wildly diverse setups. And with network i/o it's quite easy to add other systems to one's production if desired. As oft said, this is a golden age for musicians
and composers
Cheers

[glokraw]

All i did was to explain the reason why so few musicians uses Linux.

This discussion leads to nowhere. Let's make some music

Actually, it should be "why so few computer-based musicians use anything but Pro Tools
and Logic." Freedom and competition are good, and on the rise, but the industry leaders, at the pro level, are well positioned to remain the leaders.

The discussion leads to examples of modern linux versions being used by average people making informed experienced-based decisions about their creative expressions. Freedom of choice is good, the more choices, the better. The numbers of linux musicians is slowly growing in both numbers, and skills. Linux users have Bitwig, Mixbus, and Reaper, along with several mature open-source daws, and the daw market is growing faster than the buyers ability to use them. All good for a bright future.
Cheers

[audiojunkie]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

Hoping you'll repost those points you made before editing without addressing a specific member. I found them valid and valuable.

Here it all is in a nutshell:

With great freedom comes great responsibility. As long as a user implements the available tools properly: using only the package manager and repository that comes with the distro for the base OS, using Flatpak, Appimages, or Snaps for GUI based apps used on that base OS, and using Toolbx or Distrobox for everything else, there is no longer any dependency hell in the Linux world, and you can use every application available in the Linux world on your system (regardless of originating distro) without problem.

[audiojunkie]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

This post - viewtopic.php?p=8856422#p8856422 could benefit from a paragraph break or two though...it's a bit 'experimental writer from the 1920s wall of text' stylee.

Look away for a second and you're lost!

I have gone back and edited it now for everyone.

[audiojunkie]

I don’t doubt it. But recognize that I typed it all on the phone while sitting in my living room with two daughters (and their tablets) and a cat sitting on me. The only difference between this and a typewriter is that I can backspace. I’m lucky I was as even able to put together a coherent thought.

It's all valid good technical points although as donkey tugger mentioned, not sure at all if it was worth : bullet points would have been 'snappier'. And add the wall of text to that and it's enough to discourage many

I hope this has now been satisfactorily remedied in the messages above. In the neantime, here is the TL;DR takaways without any explanations or reasoning behind it all. You can do to the fixed original post fir that info:

With great freedom comes great responsibility. As long as a user implements the available tools properly: using only the package manager and repository that comes with the distro for the base OS, using Flatpak, Appimages, or Snaps for GUI based apps used on that base OS, and using Toolbx or Distrobox for everything else, there is no longer any dependency hell in the Linux world, and you can use every application available in the Linux world on your system (regardless of originating distro) without problem.

[audiojunkie]

Probably. We’re passionate.

Edit: And you’ve got to be willing to read and learn if you want to benefit from the power and flexibility of “Linux”.

This post - viewtopic.php?p=8856422#p8856422 could benefit from a paragraph break or two though...it's a bit 'experimental writer from the 1920s wall of text' stylee.

Look away for a second and you're lost!

I don’t doubt it. But recognize that I typed it all on the phone while sitting in my living room with two daughters (and their tablets) and a cat sitting on me. The only difference between this and a typewriter is that I can backspace. I’m lucky I was as even able to put together a coherent thought.

Get the cat to proofread it.

I asked, but he flatly refused, and instead insisted that I feed and pet him.