Same here. It feels dated, and like I already said before, it reminds me of some old SynthEdit designs.
Help us to decide the new default skin for Tone2 Icarus3
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- KVRAF
- 5627 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
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Kensingtonmedia Kensingtonmedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=598172
- KVRer
- 3 posts since 18 Jan, 2023
11 is beautiful ![😍](//twemoji.maxcdn.com/2/svg/1f60d.svg)
- KVRAF
- 18707 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I do too and that's why 12 is the only one I want to work with 24/7.
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With the skins of Icarus version 2.5 the background is straight on but the knobs have a backwards tilt like you're looking at them from below and that does bother my OCD. They're perfectly usable but not entirely comfortable to my eye.
I grew up using hardware so I'm comfortable with hardware looking GUIs. I loath flat GUIs and to me the Valhalla skins are some of the worst on the market. When I see the one you posted my mind says "toy" and not "tool". Lucky for him the plugins sound great.
So to me 12 doesn't look dated it looks more professional. More like a tool.
At any rate I'd wager a guess that Tone 2 might be a bit surprised that 12 is leading by so much (double at the time of this post). I get the feeling they would rather have 6 or one of the other similar options as default and I'm fine with that as long as 12 is still an option unaltered from the screenshot (although adding the +- for bipolar knobs makes sense)
I'm still hoping that user skin edits will be possible as that will eventually yield more options and hence make it easier for people to find or make a skin that they love.
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PhaseTransition PhaseTransition https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=453061
- KVRist
- 62 posts since 14 Dec, 2019
Imo the design approach of 6,10 & 13 is basicly the same with some minor differences (color sheme and backgroud texture). And combined they earn 52 % of the vote. Therefore, the majority clearly tends towards that design. That beeing said, does it really matter which is design is default? Often I choose the not default skin (Hive, Ana, Viper, ABL, Spire, Microtonic, you name it) and never think about the others again. I just hope it will remain "3rd party" skinnable like v2 is.
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- KVRian
- 523 posts since 19 Jun, 2016
+1 for editable skins in the same way as Icarus 2.... i'd like to add my own in a near future..
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- KVRAF
- 5627 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
I appreciate that.
Although, you quoted me in reference to a slightly different sentiment, that of working with some bizarre GUI designs like those 3D knobs or whole front panels set to some mind-bending 3D multi-angle (who remembers Poly-Ana? Although Arturia hasn’t learnt as shown in some of their plugins…looking at you CS80V…). The new skin (12) for Icarus is entirely usable in this context. No issues with it except a simple personal preference amongst other designs that Tone2 is offering.
Exactly. It triggers my OCD too, although, that original skin is still not as bad as some other designs from several other companies, which simply prevent me from buying some plugins.
Right now, I hope that we will see more revised skins for the other Tone2 synths. Some of these new ones are so good.
- KVRAF
- 4914 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
as their #2 and #3 choices in the poll. Yes they're almost identical. But this is just the default for marketing, not use.PhaseTransition wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:12 pm Imo the design approach of 6,10 & 13 is basicly the same with some minor differences (color sheme and backgroud texture). And combined they earn 52 % of the vote. Therefore, the majority clearly tends towards that design
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11108 posts since 12 May, 2008
My question for skin 6 and all those like it is - How can you tell if the mod amount is unipolar or bipolar? In the old skin and 12, you can see the mod amount and whether it goes in one direction or both directions around the current knob position. But with the yellow bars, they always look like the are uni-directional. Given that the knob position is indicated by the blue ring around it, I'm not sure how you'd see bi-directional modulation. Does the yellow ring go both direction from the knob position I wonder? There are no examples of that.
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- KVRian
- 523 posts since 19 Jun, 2016
Skin 6 has several examples of bipolar mod i believe, namely filter 1- cutoff and filter2 - driveEchoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:07 pm My question for skin 6 and all those like it is - How can you tell if the mod amount is unipolar or bipolar? In the old skin and 12, you can see the mod amount and whether it goes in one direction or both directions around the current knob position. But with the yellow bars, they always look like the are uni-directional. Given that the knob position is indicated by the blue ring around it, I'm not sure how you'd see bi-directional modulation. Does the yellow ring go both direction from the knob position I wonder? There are no examples of that.
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- KVRian
- 523 posts since 19 Jun, 2016
tasty tatsyn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:49 pmSkin 6 ex: has several examples of bipolar mod i believe, namely filter1-cutoff and filter2-driveEchoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:07 pm My question for skin 6 and all those like it is - How can you tell if the mod amount is unipolar or bipolar? In the old skin and 12, you can see the mod amount and whether it goes in one direction or both directions around the current knob position. But with the yellow bars, they always look like the are uni-directional. Given that the knob position is indicated by the blue ring around it, I'm not sure how you'd see bi-directional modulation. Does the yellow ring go both direction from the knob position I wonder? There are no examples of that.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11108 posts since 12 May, 2008
How can you tell? Looks the same as any other positive modulation.tasty tatsyn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:49 pmSkin 6 has several examples of bipolar mod i believe, namely filter 1- cutoff and filter2 - driveEchoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:07 pm My question for skin 6 and all those like it is - How can you tell if the mod amount is unipolar or bipolar? In the old skin and 12, you can see the mod amount and whether it goes in one direction or both directions around the current knob position. But with the yellow bars, they always look like the are uni-directional. Given that the knob position is indicated by the blue ring around it, I'm not sure how you'd see bi-directional modulation. Does the yellow ring go both direction from the knob position I wonder? There are no examples of that.
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Easily 6 or 13. I think this is REALLY the wrong place for this type of vote, though. People here are pretty design-averse and I'm guessing don't skew very neurotypical, so I don't think opinions here will map very well to general music production consumers.
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