Do Linux users tend to be somewhat paranoid?

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there is plenty enough software on linux
Yeah, Gimp. Find the mistake ...

Ah, The Truth™ :D
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“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
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Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:11 pm Besides the performance problem of Jack, ...
None
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:11 pm ... the lousy Usability of Linux and quite a few other Linux quirks like the update dialoge jumping into Mouse clicks at Ubuntu for example?
A dialog box jumping into mouse clicks ?
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:11 pm And being trapped in a bubble of fanatics that knows nothing about the rest of the world?
And think about the pregnant women who can give birth to more of them.
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:11 pm And what is wrong with FL Studio and several Kontakt libraries?
As far as I'm concerned nothing. And I never in my life expressed anything negative towards that. or anybody else who mixed some of my creations, and anybody else I collaborated with. It's not important what setup they have.

I took complete mixing/mastering courses from experienced mixing/mastering engineer Michael White (Whitney Houston, David Byrne, Mick Jagger, Jimi Hendrix remixes, etc...) and he uses ProTools and does not care at all for Bitwig, nor Harrison Mixbus32C even though he has used actual 32C Harrison consoles. I did not mind at all. In what polarized bubble world are you living ?
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:11 pm The problem is, you cannot choose. I can. I can even at any point extend my instrument pool, and can use instruments and effects that you can't. Even when you don't need it. This concept is called choice.
Choice in lieu of ...

Again, think of all the women who will give birth to more Linux 'nerds' .... Aaaarghhh ! Isn't it.
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:07 pm You do the mistake to declare the exception to the rule.
You started here by saying that Linux is not proper for creating music.

I am showing examples of using Linux for creating music. And creatively cooperating with others whose setup I don't know at all. Because it doesn't matter what one uses when it comes down to inspiration and creativity.

You don't like it. You have shown here that you can _insist_ that a Linus Torvalds video is only 2 years old when several people told you otherwise. Speak about a bubble.
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:07 pm
mevla wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:49 pm
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:19 pm Imagine you could use Bitwig at Windows, and magically you could use every VST now. Just like that, without much tinkering. Including Zebralette 3 with working Drag n Drop :)
I'd say that if there's a void at the inspiration and creation level, it wouldn't change anything apart from showing off.

So, what did you do so far music-wise with your wondrous popularity-approved setup ?
Ad hominem again? Again short of arguments? :)

I made music. That's already enough. And when there's a void at the inspiration level then a shovel guitar doesn't help neither.
Trying to see what the root cause could be about your bubble. If you take a statement like missing inspiration and creation as an insult, then you might have a serious problem.

You make music ? Nope. You talk. :)
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This finally ends the discussion with you. I told you i am not interested in Linux fanatics flaming at me. When you cannot discuss in an adult manner then the discussion is over.

But thanks for showing the real problem with Linux so clearly. The toxic community. The holy warriors with The Truth™. Against all facts and knowledge. No better example. So thanks.
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern

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Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:50 pm This finally ends the discussion with you. I told you i am not interested in Linux fanatics flaming at me. When you cannot discuss in an adult manner then the discussion is over.

But thanks for showing the real problem with Linux so clearly. The toxic community. The holy warriors with The Truth™. Against all facts and knowledge. No better example. So thanks.
A symptom of the problem is actually you are showing sings akin to religious, sect or cult fervor, resorting to playing a victim, blaming your own shortcomings on others.

Contrary to Lucy, I won't charge 5¢

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Um, you flame me, not vice versa. As told, the discussion with you is over.
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern

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mevla wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:41 pm
Thanks for the tune, lord it's been years since I heard.

Tiles, you seem to be the one who is most upset? Linux don't work for you thats cool. But like you keep repeating you are not everyone. For you and others it can't be done, for me and others it can.

Peace brother

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enCiphered wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:00 pm Apologies for the clickbait title, but I've concluded that most people here expressing concerns or engaging in debates about licensing, copy protection systems for plugins, or speculating on the fate of a company going out of service, etc., as well as those worrying about the compatibility of a 50-years old sample library with a contemporary Kontakt version, tend to be predominantly Linux users. Could this be accurate, or am I mistaken? It's just an observation on my part.
It is not about Linux, it is about Open Source.

It is about investments and not losing them. And not (primarily) the financial investment. It is about the investment of time into learning a tool and then not losing that tool against your will.

With closed source a tool can be developed in a direction that the group of users you are in doesn't like. Or it can be priced out of range. Or it can be abandoned. You would lose that investment.

The way that command and control works in open source that cannot happen in a way you can't do anything about. If you feel strongly enough about it you get to keep using the tools you invested in.

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FrettedSynth wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:01 pm
egbert101 wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:59 pm Still running Windows 95 in a Faraday cage. I don't trust dodgy Linux.
Groovy
Still on Windoze 1900 meself. Hey, if it aint broke..... :hihi:

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CapnLockheed wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:22 pm
FrettedSynth wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:01 pm
egbert101 wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:59 pm Still running Windows 95 in a Faraday cage. I don't trust dodgy Linux.
Groovy
Still on Windoze 1900 meself. Hey, if it aint broke..... :hihi:

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:) I must just be old, gear I have owned for 40 years still sounds as good today as it did back then. Drag to maintain but I like it just the same. Some software I am running is 20 years old and not a scratchy pot yet. Let's see how the pots are in 20 years.

How you doing Cap'n :)

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mevla wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:00 pm
Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:50 pm This finally ends the discussion with you. I told you i am not interested in Linux fanatics flaming at me. When you cannot discuss in an adult manner then the discussion is over.

But thanks for showing the real problem with Linux so clearly. The toxic community. The holy warriors with The Truth™. Against all facts and knowledge. No better example. So thanks.
A symptom of the problem is actually you are showing sings akin to religious, sect or cult fervor, resorting to playing a victim, blaming your own shortcomings on others.

Contrary to Lucy, I won't charge 5¢
I don't see religious/cult as much as just fear based. IMO, a closer analogy would be when someone is in an abusive relationship, yet defends them against anyone pointing out how destructive it is. When they're entrenched into the relationship to the death, generally, only the abuser survives.

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Paranoid? (quickly looks over shoulder) :scared:

Why do you ask?

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Tiles wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:36 pm
there is plenty enough software on linux
Yeah, Gimp. Find the mistake ...

Ah, The Truth™ :D
Gimp is really quite capable actually, I've even used used it in feature film production in the past.
It can not really 'completely' replace Photoshop tho, in the end. These days there are a lot of high-end commercial graphics packages available for linux. E.g. Houdini, Maya etc. Still, outside of a
studio environment, there's not a ton of reasons to use them on linux.

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pekbro wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:43 pm I've been waiting for 30 yrs for linux to become practical for me. I continue to wait... :shrug:

*The issue for me is 100 % about the availability of commercial SW.
Meh.

Why would you want commercial software? Can be taken away from you at a moment's notice. Or you get robbed after you made your investment in a given piece.

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uOpt wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:22 pm
pekbro wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:43 pm I've been waiting for 30 yrs for linux to become practical for me. I continue to wait... :shrug:

*The issue for me is 100 % about the availability of commercial SW.
Meh.

Why would you want commercial software? Can be taken away from you at a moment's notice. Or you get robbed after you made your investment in a given piece.
For work mostly... Quite often it's not my investment either thank you very much.

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