Pulsar Modular P450/P455 MDN Plugin Bundle

[Uncle E]

I think it would make VASTLY more sense to replace the plugin in question and strieve to get an even better result with it.

Yes but he was doing me a favor and it provided me with the information I was looking for.

[idoru97214]

I don't understand why you are demanding to know the internal workings of Pulsar Modular's development process? That seems unreasonable to me.

I have worked closely with developers for all of my professional career. They all come at it from different angles. Some re-use libraries and frameworks from many many sources, others pride themselves on developing from scratch. Some have more of the vision and less of the pure coding, some are stronger on the design and UX. Some are really great business analysts and excel at communicating with the customer or other teams even if their coding is a bit weaker.

You are using scraps of publicly available information to piece together the internal workings of the Pulsar Modular business team without knowing what other conversations have taken place, who else is on the team, etc.

I don't understand why you would want to do this? I don't know this information about any other development team unless I work directly with them. It just seems really negative and obsessive to me.

Most indie devs are happy to talk about what they are doing, what they don't give away is there internal tweaks and mods, there's not much point being shy about basic techniques as there is only a limited number anyway. You can argue that all devs take stuff but if they are found out they also get posted about, especially when it affects what the the plugin is meant to be doing.

Dude, you should put together a documentary of the insidious inner workings of Pulsar Modular. Throw it on Netflix and blow the doors off the entire audio industry.

[Uncle E]

The rest of the world would think it's a mockumentary. "These plugins go to 11"

[Hettoblaster]

The rest of the world would think it's a mockumentary. "These plugins go to 11"

P11

[eytanmich123]

Dude, you should put together a documentary of the insidious inner workings of Pulsar Modular. Throw it on Netflix and blow the doors off the entire audio industry.

There already is one.
And it already won the M.E. award (it's like Emmy award, only here it for Mastering Endeavors).
I have seen a Stockumentry about Cubase's stock plugins, BTW.

Back to topic :
Is the Box actually 1/2 of a 1608 ?

[stillenacht]

We do not recycle JUCE DSP modules (which ends up everyone sounding the same, except the GUI is different).
The above statement means we do use JUCE and it means we wrote our own unique routines for the P42 saturation.

To be fair this is one of the bits that was throwing me as it doesn't make sense, I guess what you are saying is that you don't use other peoples prefabricated JUCE modules but the plugins are JUCE DSP plus at a guess your variant on dynamic distortion. The confusion is that JUCE DSP is itself prefabricated that is not original. Its because people don't know whats in the plugins the GS threads have been going on over 100 pages over a misunderstanding and the sound of JUCE filters.

I don't think it was unreasonable to ask basic information about a $340 plugin (P440) as you don't buy a synth without knowing what type of synthesis its using. I'm also guessing nobody has pointed out when you buy IP its only for original work, it doesn't cover public domain or stuff used under open source license.

[dionenoid]

Demoed. Nothing special. One-trick pony, narrow sweetspot, thins out most sources. Compressor useless, eq sounds nothing like API (not like my hardware at least).

Overhyped. Overpriced.

Hard pass.

[audenso]

[irony on] very surprised emoji… with nails and teeth [irony off]

[bmanic]

Demoed. Nothing special. One-trick pony, narrow sweetspot, thins out most sources. Compressor useless, eq sounds nothing like API (not like my hardware at least).

Overhyped. Overpriced.

Hard pass.

Well well well.. what have we got here? Hyperbolic language! Could it be truth, or could the motivation be some much needed anti-hype?

So, as so many here have asked for "proof" in form of audio examples when there is hyperbolic language used (which I did and literally nobody commented on them or even tried to match the results with any other plugins or hardware) may we have some examples of the compressor being totally useless and how the plugin is only a one-trick pony and has a narrow sweetspot? Please also make sure you post the raw audio files so we can compare to make it fair (like I did).

As for the EQ sounding nothing like API, that I can agree with.. sort of, if your unit in question is the 5500 or any of the recent lunchbox revisions (so less than 15 years old give or take).

EDIT: In case it wasn't clear, I was sort of joking. No need to provide any audio clips, unless you want to of course. I just think it would be cool if we demanded equal rights for hyperbolic language. If you say something is basically useless and very bad, can you show it? Though I'm sure the mob is happy to leave it at words only when it suits them.

[SV1080]

Pointless

[audenso]

Could someone kindly elaborate on the unique functionalities offered by the P450/P455 effects plugin and why it's supposedly considered indispensable despite its premium price? Asking for a friend from the musical college.

P.S. I'm skeptical that users should be required to provide evidence to justify their decision not to purchase (also, please take note of the upvote ratio on @dionenoid’s comment above, especially when joking while being in conflict of interests.), rather than developers substantiating the value of their plugin beyond mere claims. So far, the demos I've encountered haven't convinced me, for example, to give this effects plugin a try, let alone consider adding it to my meticulously curated list of plugins.

[jens]

Demoed. Nothing special. One-trick pony, narrow sweetspot, thins out most sources. Compressor useless, eq sounds nothing like API (not like my hardware at least).

Overhyped. Overpriced.

Hard pass.

Well well well.. what have we got here? Hyperbolic language! Could it be truth, or could the motivation be some much needed anti-hype?

So, as so many here have asked for "proof" in form of audio examples when there is hyperbolic language used (which I did and literally nobody commented on them or even tried to match the results with any other plugins or hardware) may we have some examples of the compressor being totally useless and how the plugin is only a one-trick pony and has a narrow sweetspot? Please also make sure you post the raw audio files so we can compare to make it fair (like I did).

I have to try it with different material (only tested on the drum-bus so far) but tbh I have to pretty much agree with dioneoid's assessment so far. I didn't manange to come up with a setting where it didn't sound much better (opening up, kind of as if I lifted a veil and removed a rigid clamp) whenever I switched the compressor off.
(Something I very rarely experience normally; these days there's imo very few really bad-sounding compressors and (at least in my use case) this is one of them.)

Disclaimer: Of course I don't consider my verdict to be universally valid. I rather assume the compressor's possible sweet-spot is so narrow and so specifc that it only applies under certain conditions which I did not meet.

[Uncle E]

So far, the demos I've encountered haven't convinced me, for example, to give this effects plugin a try, let alone consider adding it to my meticulously curated list of plugins.

Did you listen to the three versions that bmanic posted? That convinced me to at least download the demo.

[audenso]

Yes, I did listen to them, still not interested to demo it.

[audenso]

Pointless

Why is it “pointless”. Congratulations on your 11 months old, 1st post profile on KVR