Pulsar Modular P450/P455 MDN Plugin Bundle

[Uncle E]

The vitriol and the hyperbole look like two sides of the same coin to me.

Sure, you're right, and I guess it doesn't need to go further than that if we're discussing the character of the company and not the plugins themselves. Is that what we're doing?

[Uncle E]

Depends on the hardware and ones own taste. Heck I'd take any basic stock compressor in a DAW (especially if it's Reaper's excellent ReaComp) over the extremely expensive and in my opinion useless Shadow Hills Mastering Compressor if I could only work with a single compressor. I had that on loan for quite some time many years ago and absolutely hated it. It was just plain weird and almost useless unless you absolutely tickled it and only used it for mojo.

It's a cozy compressor. Warm and fuzzy, like a mother's embrace. I prefer to be smacked in the face by an SSL.

[eecrumjr77]

Sure, you're right, and I guess it doesn't need to go further than that if we're discussing the character of the company and not the plugins themselves. Is that what we're doing?

Throughout this thread, the plugin, the company, and the hype surrounding the company's releases have all been in discussion.

My opinion on P450/455 is that I've deleted it and moved on. I didn't hear anything from it that really grabbed my attention. I've read a few user reviews that claim it opens up their otherwise congested ITB mixes in ways that they've never been able to achieve with other plugins. Makes me wonder what they've been using - there's nothing magical about what I've heard P450/455 do on my own mixes.

Still checking out Kiive NFuse though.

[Barbarossa]

Sure, you're right, and I guess it doesn't need to go further than that if we're discussing the character of the company and not the plugins themselves. Is that what we're doing?

Throughout this thread, the plugin, the company, and the hype surrounding the company's releases have all been in discussion.

My opinion on P450/455 is that I've deleted it and moved on. I didn't hear anything from it that really grabbed my attention. I've read a few user reviews that claim it opens up their otherwise congested ITB mixes in ways that they've never been able to achieve with other plugins. Makes me wonder what they've been using - there's nothing magical about what I've heard P450/455 do on my own mixes.

Still checking out Kiive NFuse though.

"They claim"?! Don't you have ears? Half a dozen mixes were posted and EACH one sounds like a record and not a single one with a comparison file does so, before.
I am stunned, that such a high percentage of forum users here cannot hear this difference.

[Barbarossa]

^
This must be some sort of humour I do not understand.

First time ever for a plugin to sound like a record..okay

All this for a EQ and Compressor.

Now that's really funny, because this plugin is all about the harmonics (or whatever they are doing to the signal) of the amp section without the EQ and comp (although they are very good, too).

[audenso]

"hey claim"?! Don't you have ears? Half a dozen mixes were posted and EACH one sounds like a record and not a single one with a comparison file does so, before.
I am stunned, that such a high percentage of forum users here cannot hear this difference.

The difference is probably a placebo

[Erik_Lucas]

Still checking out Kiive NFuse though.

Really enjoying that one.

[eecrumjr77]

"They claim"?! Don't you have ears? Half a dozen mixes were posted and EACH one sounds like a record and not a single one with a comparison file does so, before.
I am stunned, that such a high percentage of forum users here cannot hear this difference.

Bear with me, man. I don't have ears and I only listen to music with my eyes.

[Kappa_Beta_Hi-Phi]

Maybe those of us who have been critical should just step off now? I mean why would anyone find any of this problematic? Lol.

Just leave them to the circle jerk.

Clearly all the records made before the Pulsar Modular revolution are inferior - or consider this, maybe no one will, or ever could, notice? Or indeed care.

The earlier analogy made in this thread sums it up: if there is a naked crazy person screaming he's the messiah in a town square he'll soon have 12 naked disciples screaming along with him.

The End.

[midi sentinel]

I always loved watches. Especially mechanical watches.

I was lucky to live and work in Geneva vicinity for a couple of years, few years ago. I was exposed to insane amount of watch marketing and hands-on experiences. I admit, these high-end watches are beautiful. I can understand why many people feel so strongly about mechanical watches. Expensive mechanical watches, to be more precise. They can talk for hours about mechanisms and quirks and qualities of Swiss mechanisms (while pretending Grand Seiko does not exist in this universe) and there is nothing like it in this world.

Of course.

However, it is still just a watch. That shows the time in exactly the same manner as cheaper mechanical watch. They are often not even more precise, they will drift like crazy even if you get marketing talk that drift is minimal.

But the way you feel when you have an Omega or Rolex on your hand. Maaaan, it is expensive, you know that it is expensive and it immediately makes you feel better. You know that others know that it is expensive. Which also makes you feel better.

It's not the same when you wear that $100-$200 "generic" quartz watch from Swiss Military Hanowa. Beacuse Swiss Military Hanowa can be bought by everyone and is not built out of best materials. I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a Rolex or an Omega, without much thinking. But, in the end, I went and bought Swiss Military Hanowa watch that I absolutely loved. Because it is simply not logical to spend that much money on a watch. Even if you have money to spend. I have noone to impress, I don't care what others think.

Swiss Military Hanowa shows the time just as good as Rolex or Omega or Breitling. However, people wearing expensive watches feel very strongly about their watches. They feel special. They feel that special mojo, you could say.

But the best part is:

Quartz watches are, by far, most precise and reliable.

And as a sidenote - if someone is bleating about how others can not hear that "record" sound, then maybe problem is not in the others... If 99.99999% of population can't hear that special mojo and absolutely won't care or know about it, then it either doesn't matter at all or there is no mojo in the first place. Or, if you need decades of experience and the best studio equipment in the world, to hear it - then it absolutely does not f**king matter. It's a hobby. And it makes you feel special. And it's ok. Just don't turn it into a cult.

It is really tiring listening to stupid "special mojo with special curves" marketing speech, *all* *the* *time*.

edit: wrong word changed

[jens]

Overall, the plugin does have a particular sonic fingerprint to it that is sort of "soft". It can not do the modern API or SSL type of aggressive smack.. or at least I haven't been able to force it to do such things.

To me it sounds as if it was set to some parallel-compression mix under the hood.

(It's even as if the dry amount would increase the lower the threshold is set.)

[bmanic]

Still checking out Kiive NFuse though.

Really enjoying that one.

Same here. We need a new thread for it but I'm afraid to start one as I'll just be blamed for being a shill.

[jens]

I thought that was an established fact by now...

[Kappa_Beta_Hi-Phi]

Still checking out Kiive NFuse though.

Really enjoying that one.

Same here. We need a new thread for it but I'm afraid to start one as I'll just be blamed for being a shill.

Nobody accused you of being a shill, lol!

Plus shills aren't some make believe phenomenon. They walk among us sheeple! (folds tinfoil).

Actually the Kive developers attitude in the GS thread is an example of a truly great attitude IMO. He's not in there saying "this will beat out hardware", just wants to deliver the best possible product for people no matter what.

[jens]

What? You mean someone can be proud of and confident in their own achievements while remaining level-headed, modest and humble?