The new skins are refreshing to work with — and while the demo overwrote I2 so I can't compare, first impression is that I3 has a much improved general tone.
Available now: Tone2 Icarus v3.2
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- KVRAF
- 1871 posts since 4 Oct, 2016
You can now purchase the Icarus 3 upgrade on the Tone2 website! https://www.tone2.com/download.html
However, I don't know if it's just for Icarus 3 or it's Icarus 1 to Icarus 2/3. Just to pay $90 to upgrade from Icarus 2.5 to 3 seems crazy. And downloading the PC version still only shows 2.5.
However, I don't know if it's just for Icarus 3 or it's Icarus 1 to Icarus 2/3. Just to pay $90 to upgrade from Icarus 2.5 to 3 seems crazy. And downloading the PC version still only shows 2.5.
- KVRAF
- 14435 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
I think the argument can be made that the relatively recent upgrade from Avenger 1 to 2 was about the same price then....
I too do wish the upgrade from v2 to v3 was a bit cheaper than v1 to v3.
rsp
I too do wish the upgrade from v2 to v3 was a bit cheaper than v1 to v3.
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
look at what's on offer in version 3; obviously, a lot of work went into it. and if the developer feels that that's the price they need to set... that's what it is.
let these people make a living! we use their tools, expect constant fixes, updates... then complain when we have to pay for a new version.
personally, i expect to get paid fairly for my work; i imagine most people feel like that.
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- KVRian
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- 570 posts since 18 Oct, 2023
I get the point that some owners of v2.5 can feel as they have been unjustly treated. Sadly it's just not possible to always make it right for anyone. If you think so contact our support and we'll try to find an individual solution for you.
Apart from this we kindly ask to stay fair and note the facts:
Icarus2 is nearly half a decade old. In 2022 we released v2.5 which was a very generous free update with lots of new features and enhancements.
The updgrade price to v2.x had been reduced in the price (€59 instead of €79) for 2 years before v3 was announced.
Then there is also a grace period of 5 months for a free upgrade to v3.
At some point we need to jump to a new major version and not everything can always be for free.
Icarus3 is the biggest update that we ever released. It comes with a massive number of new features, 240 new sounds, reworked factory content and lots of enhancements. It was one year of work. And just like anyone else we and our sound designers want to get paid for the work and we need to pay our taxes and cover our running costs. Development won't end with v3.0.
If you think that €79/$89 is too expensive or if you don't want to support our company - don't buy the upgrade. It is fully optional and your current version will continue to work.
Icarus3 is the final Tone2 product and the final major update. After this only free udpates and soundsets will be released.
Apart from this we kindly ask to stay fair and note the facts:
Icarus2 is nearly half a decade old. In 2022 we released v2.5 which was a very generous free update with lots of new features and enhancements.
The updgrade price to v2.x had been reduced in the price (€59 instead of €79) for 2 years before v3 was announced.
Then there is also a grace period of 5 months for a free upgrade to v3.
At some point we need to jump to a new major version and not everything can always be for free.
Icarus3 is the biggest update that we ever released. It comes with a massive number of new features, 240 new sounds, reworked factory content and lots of enhancements. It was one year of work. And just like anyone else we and our sound designers want to get paid for the work and we need to pay our taxes and cover our running costs. Development won't end with v3.0.
If you think that €79/$89 is too expensive or if you don't want to support our company - don't buy the upgrade. It is fully optional and your current version will continue to work.
Icarus3 is the final Tone2 product and the final major update. After this only free udpates and soundsets will be released.
https://www.tone2.com
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
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- KVRAF
- 1871 posts since 4 Oct, 2016
I just purchased the upgrade. Although the keyfile says Icarus 2, will it work for version 3? When will I get the v3 PC download?
Edit: Nevermind, I found the Icarus 3 keyfile, but still don't see a new version download.
Please delete now that a PM has been sent.
Edit: Nevermind, I found the Icarus 3 keyfile, but still don't see a new version download.
Please delete now that a PM has been sent.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 570 posts since 18 Oct, 2023
Thanks a lot for supporting our small company!
I sent you a PM with the beta download link.
Please note that the beta is currently Mac only.
I sent you a PM with the beta download link.
Please note that the beta is currently Mac only.
https://www.tone2.com
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
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- KVRAF
- 1871 posts since 4 Oct, 2016
I also purchased your wavetable expansion as a donation. You can delete my last comment now. Thanks!
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
Yes you have a business to run. But surely it's better to get your pricing in a place where the majority are encouraged to upgrade. Something like $59 from V2 would make much more a no-brainer decision. Upgrading from V1 could then be more like $89.Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:58 pm And just like anyone else we and our sound designers want to get paid for the work and we need to pay our taxes and cover our running costs. Development won't end with v3.0.
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- KVRist
- 62 posts since 24 Oct, 2023
Hardly anything new in Avenger 2 either..zvenx wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:13 pm I think the argument can be made that the relatively recent upgrade from Avenger 1 to 2 was about the same price then....
I too do wish the upgrade from v2 to v3 was a bit cheaper than v1 to v3.
rsp
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- KVRist
- 62 posts since 24 Oct, 2023
I just bought Icarus, a fantastic synth.
- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
perhaps 'better' pricing can better be determined by the actual developer, than someone on an internet forum who attempts to speak for 'the majority'...db3 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:30 pmYes you have a business to run. But surely it's better to get your pricing in a place where the majority are encouraged to upgrade. Something like $59 from V2 would make much more a no-brainer decision. Upgrading from V1 could then be more like $89.Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:58 pm And just like anyone else we and our sound designers want to get paid for the work and we need to pay our taxes and cover our running costs. Development won't end with v3.0.
if you don't like the price of something, or a feature, or whatever... KVR is a 'great' place to vent (as we all know
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
I'm not attempting to speak for anyone; purely giving a POV. I have no inclination to upgrade. Some devs, such as Minimal, do indeed listen and adapt based on forum feedback.fisherKing wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:38 pmperhaps 'better' pricing can better be determined by the actual developer, than someone on an internet forum who attempts to speak for 'the majority'...db3 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:30 pmYes you have a business to run. But surely it's better to get your pricing in a place where the majority are encouraged to upgrade. Something like $59 from V2 would make much more a no-brainer decision. Upgrading from V1 could then be more like $89.Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:58 pm And just like anyone else we and our sound designers want to get paid for the work and we need to pay our taxes and cover our running costs. Development won't end with v3.0.
if you don't like the price of something, or a feature, or whatever... KVR is a 'great' place to vent (as we all know) just don't expect your needs to determine how a business operates.
- KVRAF
- 3642 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
if you're not updating, why is this so important to you? and here is what you said:db3 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:56 pm Yes you have a business to run. But surely it's better to get your pricing in a place where the majority are encouraged to upgrade. Something like $59 from V2 would make much more a no-brainer decision. Upgrading from V1 could then be more like $89.
"But surely it's better to get your pricing in a place where the majority are encouraged to upgrade"
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